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Rusty Nails

We remember
My heart really bleeds for all these poor people who are stuck in the dark ages, having to twiddle knobs and press buttons to control stuff on their cars.

The poor souls must be absolutely knackered at the end of a journey with all the physical effort.





First world problems in spades...get a life.
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
So my erstwhile Q4 e-wrong spell may not last as long as expected. BMW i4 inbound next month.
Still gobsmacked how awful the Audi brakes are. Drums at the back like the Morris Minor I owned when it was 50p a pint :laugh:

No way that Q4 has drums at the back. Then I checked. WTH? DRUMS? Druuuums? So what if it has regen brakes.... Drums? First I hear that learners no longer need to do emergency stops. Now I hear Audi has drums at the rear. Gotta be kidding me.
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
I can confirm. It's like using a supermarket checkout touch screen sometimes.

The UI on VWs is quite odd. Looks great in the adverts though.

Ps. Tesla rocks. I have a few complaints like minor niggles and paint quality and most of them are white unless you wanna spend money. They have cheaper running costs, execute their software better and kick ass with the supercharger network.
 

Grant Fondo

Legendary Member
No way that Q4 has drums at the back. Then I checked. WTH? DRUMS? Druuuums? So what if it has regen brakes.... Drums? First I hear that learners no longer need to do emergency stops. Now I hear Audi has drums at the rear. Gotta be kidding me.

The i4's brakes are a million times better and its a lot quicker than the Q4 ... so far so good
 
No way that Q4 has drums at the back. Then I checked. WTH? DRUMS? Druuuums? So what if it has regen brakes.... Drums? First I hear that learners no longer need to do emergency stops. Now I hear Audi has drums at the rear. Gotta be kidding me.

There's a reason, something to do with regen braking not needing to apply the physical brakes so they corrode due to lack of use. You need to fing a quiet bit of road and accelerate before slamming the anchors on to override the regen and cause the physical brakes to engage. I think drum brakes are part of the solution. Something along those lines, I have probably misinterpreted what I read, I don't even have a car, have never driven, but am interested in the technology.
 
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icowden

Veteran
I find that the climate controls on my ID3 work fine, are easy to access and adjust and the operation is fairly intuitive (press red for warmer and blue for colder). I've no problems with them......somewhat easier to operate than on my previous EV, a Leaf.
The overall operation is simple - red for warm and blue for cold. It's all the other stuff.

Firstly - 3 screens - "Smart Climate", "Classic Climate" and "Air Care".

Classic climate has your usual stuff, fan speed, defrost, point at body, point at feet, recirculate air, max AC and AC, the steering wheel heater button and the seat heater buttons.

Smart climate has "Clear view", "warm feet", "cool feet", "fresh air" and "quick cooling" but if you are using smart climate you can't turn the steering wheel heater on or off. You can access the seat heater though.

Then there is "air care" which looks great graphically but makes no noticeable difference to the air in the car.

The function I use most is "fresh air" as it does quickly remove "smells" from the inside of the car. The Voice AI can't distinguish between "warm feet" and "warm seat".

Additionally there is a "settings" page which allows yet more tweaks such as default seat heater setting when you get in the car and the air is under a certain temperature (you can't specify the temperature), how much air is recirculated etc.

Interestingly in the ID7 they have implemented fast cooling / heating - presumably in response to Tesla's similar function.
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
There seems to be some kind of mistaken theme here that touchscreens are an EV thing. I have an EV with plenty of switches and knobs and my wife has an ICE with a lot of touchscreen controls.
 
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Rocky

Hello decadence
The overall operation is simple - red for warm and blue for cold. It's all the other stuff.

Firstly - 3 screens - "Smart Climate", "Classic Climate" and "Air Care".

Classic climate has your usual stuff, fan speed, defrost, point at body, point at feet, recirculate air, max AC and AC, the steering wheel heater button and the seat heater buttons.

Smart climate has "Clear view", "warm feet", "cool feet", "fresh air" and "quick cooling" but if you are using smart climate you can't turn the steering wheel heater on or off. You can access the seat heater though.

Then there is "air care" which looks great graphically but makes no noticeable difference to the air in the car.

The function I use most is "fresh air" as it does quickly remove "smells" from the inside of the car. The Voice AI can't distinguish between "warm feet" and "warm seat".

Additionally there is a "settings" page which allows yet more tweaks such as default seat heater setting when you get in the car and the air is under a certain temperature (you can't specify the temperature), how much air is recirculated etc.

Interestingly in the ID7 they have implemented fast cooling / heating - presumably in response to Tesla's similar function.

The ID3 heating air/con is as you say. I don’t really find it difficult to use - I’ve got my favourite setup and mostly keep it on that. To me it’s like a phone, once you are used to it, everything comes pretty naturally. I know people have written about its clunkiness and lack of intuition but to me it seems fine.

It reminds me of switching from a Dell to an Apple laptop, things take a while to get used to but after that, it all becomes second nature.
 

lazybloke

Ginger biscuits and cheddar
Aw, i slept through all the climate control discussion yesterday (recovery after the Whistable fnrttc)
That's what visors are for. If you set the climate to auto, it will ramp up fan speed and increase or decrease temp to maintain preset temperature
Uh-huh.
Have you learned the difference between heat energy and radiant energy yet?

The way we perceive warmth can be considerably influenced by at least 10 factors, any of which might have me reaching for the controls.
A preset temp is only one consideration, and not always the most important.
 
I'm glad for you, if Il feel hot, I reduce temperature, localised heat from sun, use visor. Let the auto features do the rest
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
Many modern climate control systems use sunlight sensors to add solar gain to the other factors in order to maintain cabin comfort.
 
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