F*ck off punk

[Chuffy]

Just watched a documentary about the whole Madchester scene. "We're so fookin great, we're not from London" etc. Loads of middle aged blokes reinventing their past to convince you that they were the nuts back in the day.

Bunch of c*nts. I come from Dorset and all those b*stards were f*cking tossers from another country. Tony Wilson? P*ss off, twat.

Etc...

 

[Funtboy]

Go to bed

 

[Chuffy]

Go to bed

In about five minutes. And punk was a bunch of self-satisfied w*nk.

 

[Funtboy]

In about five minutes. And punk was a bunch of self-satisfied w*nk.

You were scared of it at the time weren't you?

 

[Chuffy]

You were scared of it at the time weren't you?

I was 8.

With age comes wisdom.
For old punks comes the opportunity to re-invent themselves as class warriors. For the likes of me, too young and in the wrong bits of the country to be involved, they were a bunch of self-satisfied tossers who have only got worse and more full of their own self-mythologising sh*t as the years pass.

Old punks? F*ck off.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

As a great song by the Silver Jews goes:

Punk rock died when the first punk said:
"Punk's not dead"

 

[snorri]

Peace on earth Chuffy

 

[dellzeqq]

relax Chuffers. The Babe used to go to the Hacienda, and she turned out all right.

 

[upsidedown]

I can't beleive that M People dross won a Mercury prize. Didn't even know they were from Manchester, assumed they were from Reading or something.

Bit odd seeing them and Simply Red in the same programme as Joy Division and The Fall.

 

[akaAndrew]

It's like Woodstock is the Sex Pistols at the Free Trade Hall; more people claimed to have been there than actually went. Part time punks (as the song goes) or jumping someone else's train (as the other, not punk, song goes).

Besides, there just jealous. Stuff 'em.

 

[Mr Pig]

And punk was a bunch of self-satisfied w*nk.

Have to agree, every time I see Johnny Lydon I think 'what a tosser'.

It's odd that in pop music it seems that the bigger the tosser you are the more the kids worship you. Does make one conclude that young people are idiots.

 

[akaAndrew]

Not just pop music is it Mr Pig? Some right tossers in the sports world seem to attract fan boys too!

I have to disagree with the dismissal of punk though. Sure, Malcolm McLaren took it as a kind of hedonistic experiment in fashion and popular culture, and the Sex Pistols became his pawn, but that ignores the very real energy and vibe that was punk.

Look at the musical backdrop at the time. 4 day drum solos, up-ya-bum keyboard wizardry, pompous cock rock, etc etc etc. Is it any wonder that teenagers thought that was (rightly imo) w*nk and started to try and do something themselves. That was punk. It resulted in some very raw, very clumsy but utterly sincere music (exclude The latter day Pistols, they were tighter than any rock band!). If you want to listen to something that, for me, typifies punk then listen to XRay Specs' 'Oh Bondage, Up Yours' on 'Live at The Roxy'... that song splutters and farts into life, is complete disjointed mayhem thereafter but is pure gold.

 

[PaulB]

I'm with Andrew. It was a revolution that blew away all the pompous preening that had gone before it and the only ones who didn't like it were the old in spirit and the frightened. Of course, like all revolutions it betrayed its very roots once it had achieved its aim but it was a refreshing experience nevertheless.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

I like Johnny Rotten - he was a teenager when he wrote lyrics for the Sex Pistols, and it's pretty mature stuff (not all granted).
If you watch 'The Filth and the Fury' - great film - you'll see a different side of JR, esp when he's talking about his friend Sid.
Butter ads aside (the guys gotta eat!) he's ok.

 

[palinurus]

Have to agree, every time I see Johnny Lydon I think 'what a tosser'.

Me too. But then I remember Metal Box. I do pretty well at ignoring him- because it mostly gets my blood up- but you never know when he's going to surprise you, leering out of a poster outside of Sainsbury's.