Does anyone know anyone who has ever not been able to use clipless pedals because their foot it angled to widely. In the past I have tried to use spd's (have m-324 combi pedal - platform one side and spd binding other side) however always got bad knee and hip pain and had to give up. I put it down to my fitting and not really knowing what I was doing however I read the c+ article on seat height which suggested a 25 degree knee bend using goniometer. Checked them out and got one for £8 so thought it was worth a try. It gave me the idea when I got it that I could use it to sort out my spd setup ie I could use the angles my feet are when standing in an unforced position and then replicate that on the bike. Result was that my spds will only allow a maximum angle of adjustment left or right of centre of about 8 degrees which is perfect for my right foot however my left foot has a 16 degree angle so I have no way of creating my natural angle on the bike - in fact I don't even come close. This doesn't suprise me as when I have tried before I was left with very bad knee and hip pain which would put me off the bike for several weeks hence my reluctance to even revisit them however from time to time I do go there as I really wanted to be able to use clipless as I wanted to do a lot more riding and this would greatly have assisted me in being much more efficient. Just wondered if anyone else had come across this problem and is their any clipless pedal system which would allow a much greater range of movement in the setup of the cleat left or right of centre, in my case right of centre as I am toes out. Hate toe clips so really not interested in that as a potential solution would rather just stick to being slow in trainers if that is my only other option.