Fenchurch Street prang

[hackbike 666]

Good job avoiding those clowns, Hackers!

Tynan, how goes the bruising and bike? Have you heard back from the police/woman at all?

Don't really look on them as clowns as it seems like a normal thing in London.

Bit dissapointed though....I've been good recently.Bad day methinxs.
Will put the second incident up.Can't see much of the first due to the girl coming at me from the left.

The bloke first came from the left then from the right.

 

[Titan yer tummy]

SHAME SHAME SHAME

ah well, it's nice for once to be the one that walks away leaving someone else to lie in the road

sadly no cam footage

I have now read this thread twice with a growing sense of astonishment. Are the people who share my interest in cycling so completely detached from reality. I can only imagine that the above comment was made as a result of a mental aberration caused through shock.

A woman has been knocked down in a road traffic accident and the principal area of discussion is where does the fault lie.

Has anyone thought about how angry we cyclists would be if one of our number had been an accident victim in a collision with a car and a similar internet conversation were going on between the driver and a bunch of other motorists.

It matters little how this woman contributed to her injury, the point is she is hurt - quite badly by the sound of it - and the thrust of this post is 'not my fault guv'.

I think it is an absolute disgrace and we should hang our heads in shame.

Has anyone contacted the hospital to ask how she is? Perhaps contacted her family? Has she got a husband? Children even? Perhaps a visit to the hospital with a box of choccies is in order.

And talking of children what if the victim of this collision had been a child? Would you be so smug then? I think not.

A serious evaluation of our responsibilities as road users is order here!!

 

[Ashaman42]

On the other hand did the pedestrians that caused Tynan to be the one lying in the road hurt check up on him in hospital (assuming he was in hospital)?

I know two wrongs don't make a right but it's not like it's just cyclists that may need to evaluate their responsibilities.

And we can hardly blame Tynan for being relieved he's not the injured party in an accident that sounds more the pedestrians fault than his.

 

[BentMikey]

Should you not be equally if not more astonished at how pedestrians in general are so irresponsible that they drink to the point of being legless, and then go staggering out into the road, causing an innocent cyclist to crash very hard? I'm sure Tynan does feel much sympathy for the woman, he's a pretty good bloke.

 

[garrilla]

Ouch, hit a ped plumb at 20mph on Fenchurch tonight, lurched out into the road right in front of me, giving me enough tme to start shouting, she was looking completely the wrong way, my proof being that as I tried to swerve past my dropped left shoulder hit her perfectly squarely between the shoulder blades and knocked her down very hard face first into the road, stopped me and the bike dead (both lying down seperately in the road)

unlucky mate.

This happened to me about 24 years ago. I was going very fast down a big hill, ped steps out, I shout to get back and start to swerve outward, she steps out further, I swerve inward, she steps back into my path! I clip her and knock her to the ground, out for the count. I took a 10 ft roll along the road and into the path on an oncoming car which hit my leg and arm but which stopped in time to do no damage.

She eventually tried to sue me as she claimed I was cycling dangerously and wasn't visible. I couldn't counter the dangerous cycling part but I was wearing yellow trawler outers at the time. She dropped the case.

Hope it all turns out ok for you.

 

[hackbike 666]

Happened to me Feb 1991 @ Tower Bridge.

 

[Tynan]

I have now read this thread twice with a growing sense of astonishment. Are the people who share my interest in cycling so completely detached from reality. I can only imagine that the above comment was made as a result of a mental aberration caused through shock.

A woman has been knocked down in a road traffic accident and the principal area of discussion is where does the fault lie.

Has anyone thought about how angry we cyclists would be if one of our number had been an accident victim in a collision with a car and a similar internet conversation were going on between the driver and a bunch of other motorists.

It matters little how this woman contributed to her injury, the point is she is hurt - quite badly by the sound of it - and the thrust of this post is 'not my fault guv'.

I think it is an absolute disgrace and we should hang our heads in shame.

Has anyone contacted the hospital to ask how she is? Perhaps contacted her family? Has she got a husband? Children even? Perhaps a visit to the hospital with a box of choccies is in order.

And talking of children what if the victim of this collision had been a child? Would you be so smug then? I think not.

A serious evaluation of our responsibilities as road users is order here!!

oh purleaze, really, tell me what I did wrong, I'm the injured party not her, if I was anything unreasonable I'd be suing here for my injuries and losses, I do hope she's ok, it's posted somewhere but that's common decency, nothing else

smug? not at all why on earth would I be, and if it was a child, I'd be more upset than I am but it'd be entirely the fault of whoever was in charge of the child

it was entirely not my fault, fact, accept that and get off that horse

 

[Crankarm]

I have now read this thread twice with a growing sense of astonishment. Are the people who share my interest in cycling so completely detached from reality. I can only imagine that the above comment was made as a result of a mental aberration caused through shock.

A woman has been knocked down in a road traffic accident and the principal area of discussion is where does the fault lie.

Has anyone thought about how angry we cyclists would be if one of our number had been an accident victim in a collision with a car and a similar internet conversation were going on between the driver and a bunch of other motorists.

It matters little how this woman contributed to her injury, the point is she is hurt - quite badly by the sound of it - and the thrust of this post is 'not my fault guv'.

I think it is an absolute disgrace and we should hang our heads in shame.

Has anyone contacted the hospital to ask how she is? Perhaps contacted her family? Has she got a husband? Children even? Perhaps a visit to the hospital with a box of choccies is in order.

And talking of children what if the victim of this collision had been a child? Would you be so smug then? I think not.

A serious evaluation of our responsibilities as road users is order here!!

Hang on a minute ..........

Tynan's 2nd post at post #4.

.......as for the ped, of course I hope she's ok but I don't have too much sympathy for people staggering drunk into the road looking the wrong way, the last two accidents I've add, I was the one going to hospital hurt while the guilty party went home to tea and toast

Do we have a in our midst?

 

[Tynan]

me?

with near 5,000 posts?

 

[Crankarm]

me?

with near 5,000 posts?

No ........ the other guy slinging mud, with the slack belly avatar who needs to tighten his belly.

Mind you don't miss your 5k milestone.

 

[Titan yer tummy]

it was entirely not my fault, fact, accept that and get off that horse

You Sir, were travelling too fast for the road conditions - Highway Code rule 125 - and whilst the police have, at this stage, have taken no further action against you I suspect if a civil court is asked to consider this it will take a different view.

125

The speed limit is the absolute maximum and does not mean it is safe to drive at that speed irrespective of conditions. Driving at speeds too fast for the road and traffic conditions is dangerous.
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and how do I know you were travelling too fast for the conditions - because you had an accident where your speed was a major factor.

 

[BentMikey]

Bit of a bear with a sore head this morning, Titan?

 

[hackbike 666]

They do just step out or bolt from anywhere though don't they?

Even the bloke (which I have on film and mean to post up) walked out in front of me and then he walked back.(arggggggggggggggggh) no doubt it was my fault again.

Strange both incidents on the same day (Thursday) I had no time to blow the horn.Normally I can see the situation developing.Both incidents are caught on film although as the first can't be seen where the girl crossed at the lights (from the left) without looking.At a guess peds do this because they don't hear an engine sound,car noise so think it's safe.

No im not laying blame because I know what it's like in London and this happens all the time and im fed up with getting p*55ed off when this happens day after day.

 

[Vikeonabike]

but all I could think about was wanting to check that the front wheel was ok,

Isn't this normal for cyclists....our bikes are precious and most cyclist I know will look after their bikes before themselves.
I came off mine at very low speed once, whilst talking to a friend, straight over the bars and hit the old bonce on the tarmac. Allegedly, I picked up the bike from the middle of the road, put it on the pavement and then went and laid out in the middle of the road, unconscious..Don't remember anything about it!