Finally Justice for victims of revenge porn site - 18 years Jail

[ufkacbln]

I am sure that all those who fell victim must have regretted ever posing for such videos. They must also be experiencing lingering doubt about ever trusting another person for quite a while. Surely society's wrath must fall on those who broke that trust and did what they did with clear malice and intent. In some of these cases the damage is permanent. That moment of trust has now turned to a moment of folly. What is needed is empathy.

This is where the fine line between blaming and learning from the victim exists

I remember an article that suggested if you were going o pose then get a contract in place first!

That gives you the legal right to ask for the individual to remove the images, and also gives recourse in law

However far easier said than done in the heat of the moment

 

[MontyVeda]

The only way to prevent is not to take the images......

can't you see that that very statement is strongly suggesting the the victim is in part responsible? You keep saying 'let's learn from this'.. but i say fark that... lets not fall into a rut of mistrust with our nearest and dearest, just because some bunch of ***** decided to betray and exploit the people they're no longer in a relationship with. Instead, lets hand down 18 year jail sentences to those that do exploit and betray their former lovers,at least as a word of warning that 'this kind of thing' is unacceptable in modern society.... there's nothing wrong with couples taking nuddy photos of each other to enjoy at a later date, there's nothing wrong with having a bit of fun under the sheets and keeping a memento....which is why i find this notion of "ah but love... if you hadn't had that bit of fun" so mind bogglingly inane. If only they'd become nuns!

 

[ufkacbln]

can't you see that that very statement is strongly suggesting the the victim is in part responsible? You keep saying 'let's learn from this'.. but i say fark that... lets not fall into a rut of mistrust with our nearest and dearest, just because some bunch of ***** decided to betray and exploit the people they're no longer in a relationship with. Instead, lets hand down 18 year jail sentences to those that do exploit and betray their former lovers,at least as a word of warning that 'this kind of thing' is unacceptable in modern society.... there's nothing wrong with couples taking nuddy photos of each other to enjoy at a later date, there's nothing wrong with having a bit of fun under the sheets and keeping a memento....which is why i find this notion of "ah but love... if you hadn't had that bit of fun" so mind bogglingly inane. If only they'd become nuns!

It is about risk assessment ..

You have to realise that there is a risk, you have to realise that many couples will split and that it will often be acrimonious. You assess that risk and then proceed how you wish.

People will often do and say things that they would not otherwise do, and it can involve nude pictures.

We had a local case where the wife was having an affair. Husband became suspicious and found compromising explicit photos of her and boyfriend on her phone. `he sent them to everyone on her contact list and some of the less explicit on her Facebook

Was that a breach of trust and a betrayal of their relationship?

Probably, but he honestly thought that it was an acceptable way of showing her betrayal by having an affair and therefore not unreasonable to inform everyone in a way that could not be challenged

Is this the same as putting it on a web site for revenge?

Equally there is the issue of the privacy of those whose images have been hacked or stolen and then published

The matter deserves a wider discussion than revenge sites...... surely any site that publishes images without the consent of those in the images is equally questionable?

There is also the "reasonable expectation of privacy" that covers images taken in public.

I can take your image if you are "in shot" of something else, and that is legal, however I also have a responsibility to use that image reasonably, and not use it in a way that you would find objectionable.

The rules and laws are there - we should use them

 

[Markymark]

Women being in any way responsible is like saying cyclists are responsible for being injured. There's a risk with cycling. Nobody is ever hurt cycling if they're drivibg a car.

The same bs I'm reading on this thread is like the bs I read from drivers blaming cyclists for doing something obviously dangerous and should accept the risks.

 

[MontyVeda]

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The matter deserves a wider discussion than revenge sites......
...

This topic is about the revenge site and the sentence passed down to whoever ran it... if you want wider discussion, that's another thread... but clearly your call for wider discussion is simply a way of you avoiding responding to the points raised against you.

The rest of your post is just guff.

 

[ufkacbln]

Almost on a level with TMN's refusal to accept any blackmail is wrong or that consent under duress is not the same as that given freely


If the points are too difficult, please feel free to dismiss them far easier than a genuine reply

 

[MontyVeda]

I removed 'nobber' from a previous post after you PM'd me... as I'd figured it was a bit harsh, but you really are being a nobber.

nobber.

 

[ufkacbln]

I would imagine that that would be because it was not the point at issue

... Or because the point is correct and it is more convenient to avoid the real answer?

 

[ufkacbln]

I removed 'nobber' from a previous post after you PM'd me... as I'd figured it was a bit harsh, but you really are being a nobber.

nobber.

The fact that this is the level of your contribution is revealing

 

[MontyVeda]

whatever... just ignore all my other contributions at your leisure whilst you duck the actual issue.. nobber.

 

[ufkacbln]

So the level of debate has degenerated to squesling "nobber"

My points are valid and the fact that the answers are personal insults speaks volumes about their validity and the value of the replies

Feel free to lower yourself to your standards

In the meanwhile lets sum this up....

Blackmail is acceptable if you only do it " a little bit"

Consent under the duress of blackmail is equal to freely given consent

People being victimised by porn sites isn't relevant or worth discussing unless it has a revenge motive

Feel free to squeal mor names

 

[MontyVeda]

surprise surprise... your summary is guff.

 

[Drago]

surprise surprise... your summary is guff.

Then tell us why, instead of repeatedly calling Cuno childish names. The playground level of behaviour you're displaying marks you as the one worthy of that word, not Cuno.

 

[ufkacbln]

Unfortunately, trying to discuss anything in an intelligent way with Cunobelin is akin to climbing the north face of the Eiger with a grand piano strapped to your back, so I'm just going to relax for a while by donning my Thudguard and merrily bashing my face against the nearest knapped flint wall until I draw lots of lovely blood.

..... Or simply answer the two questions?


Is blackmail acceptable in any form?

Is consent under the duress of blackmail the same as freely given consent?

 

[AndyRM]

No.

No.