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You can only either blackmail or not - you can't blackmail "a little"

... and of course the question is whether he had her consent to display this image, or is it simply another case of "revenge porn"?

<sigh> Whoosh.

Sorry if that was too complex for you

Lets break it down and make it as simple as possible.......

Did the artist have the consent of the female in question?

If she did not consent do you find he publication of the image acceptable or unacceptable?
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
If my back account gets hacked I expect the back to reimburse me, and if it is a result of their negligence or shortcoming, to change their systems as a result. I don't expect to be told "it was your own fault for not keeping the money under your mattress". That's what I mean by a reasonable expectation of privacy
 
If my back account gets hacked I expect the back to reimburse me, and if it is a result of their negligence or shortcoming, to change their systems as a result. I don't expect to be told "it was your own fault for not keeping the money under your mattress". That's what I mean by a reasonable expectation of privacy

The point is that you have looked at the risk, have expectations and made a decision based on these assumptions

Now what about your Health records being hacked?
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
The point is that you have looked at the risk, have expectations and made a decision based on these assumptions
No, the point is that people in relationships based on trust have abused that trust by uploading pictures to some web site, and that the operators of said web site have profited massively from that abuse

Safety of electronic health records is a long way from the point
 
No, the point is that people in relationships based on trust have abused that trust by uploading pictures to some web site, and that the operators of said web site have profited massively from that abuse

Safety of electronic health records is a long way from the point


.. and the point that you are avoiding is that these images can also be exploited by the unscrupulous without complicity by those involved
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
.. and the point that you are avoiding is that these images can also be exploited by the unscrupulous without complicity by those involved
I an "avoiding" that point because it is in no way relevant to the subject of the thread. If you'd like to discuss it, you might consider starting a new thread for that purpose
 

summerdays

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No, the point is that people in relationships based on trust have abused that trust by uploading pictures to some web site, and that the operators of said web site have profited massively from that abuse
It doesn't have to be the pair involved that shared the photograph, once the photograph is on the device it can fall into the wrong hands.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
That doesn't seem to come within the subject of "revenge porn" though, because whoever steals the phone is unlikely to have a revenge motive

Look, I'm all for adopting a cautious attitude to internet security and mobile device security, but blaming the women involved in this case for not being more careful is like blaming Princess Di for the newspaper pictures of her working out because she should have known the gym owner was spying on her
 

summerdays

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That doesn't seem to come within the subject of "revenge porn" though, because whoever steals the phone is unlikely to have a revenge motive

Look, I'm all for adopting a cautious attitude to internet security and mobile device security, but blaming the women involved in this case for not being more careful is like blaming Princess Di for the newspaper pictures of her working out because she should have known the gym owner was spying on her
agree the motive isn't revenge, but the result is that the photographs are seen by more than the intended audience.
 
Oh dear, I see another Thudguard situation looming, and I ain't playing, sorry.



If you feel that are unable to acknowledge that blackmail is blackmail ... FULL STOP and that pubishing an image without the model's consent is wrong then I am sure that you have your reasons
 
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It doesn't have to be the pair involved that shared the photograph, once the photograph is on the device it can fall into the wrong hands.

Despite the keenness of some to avoid discussing the wider issues, I personally do not see the difference between exploiting an individual who you know and one you don't

The spate last year of hacked "celebrity" images being hosted on 4chan and reddit are an example of just how secure your data is.

The sites are equally dubious and making money from these images does not make the situation any less traumatic, embarrassing or reduce the personal cost to the individuals

Whether the motive is revenge or money, it is still distasteful , and unaceptable
 

summerdays

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Does the reason have to be blackmail? Doesn't matter what the reason is, you don't want intimate photographs of you being distributed beyond your control, so storing them on devices that can be broken into fairly easily seems to be daft.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
I think some are getting sidetracked by the 'data' and 'devices'.. they're are a detail, not the issue.

the problem is not the ease at which images can be distributed these days, but the exploitative nature in which they've been used. If it was done with old fashioned photographs published in the gutter press, it'd be the exact same thing and i'd fully expect those responsible to be prosecuted. It could even be a case of a handful of photocopies posted through a few key letter boxes and a request for a few quid to avoid more being posted. The size of the potential audience is irrelevant too. For the victims of this abuse, it's only a few people close to them that matter, not the millions on the interweb.

your house can be broken into fairly easily @summerdays, so keeping any personal items in it that you might not want to be made public, seems a bit daft.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I think some are getting sidetracked by the 'data' and 'devices'.. they're are a detail, not the issue.

the problem is not the ease at which images can be distributed these days, but the exploitative nature in which they've been used. If it was done with old fashioned photographs published in the gutter press, it'd be the exact same thing and i'd fully expect those responsible to be prosecuted. It could even be a case of a handful of photocopies posted through a few key letter boxes and a request for a few quid to avoid more being posted. The size of the potential audience is irrelevant too. For the victims of this abuse, it's only a few people close to them that matter, not the millions on the interweb.

your house can be broken into fairly easily @summerdays, so keeping any personal items in it that you might not want to be made public, seems a bit daft.
But it's far easier to access photos on a phone or computer, and it's more obvious that a burglary has occurred.
 
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