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vickster

Squire
More convenient than having traffic lights at every junction...unless you are an RLJ'er :laugh:
 

akb

Veteran
I have learnt that for any RAB, take the lane and then take primary of that lane untill you have completed the move.

Sounds like you may be a bit worried about annoying other motorists by slowing them down. Dont be. Think about your own safety. I used to be exactly the same and now I ride in a much more assertive and some may say aggressive manner. It saves incidents like this happening and shows to most of the decent motorists that you, as well as anything else on the road, have the right to be there.
 
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Kiwiavenger

Kiwiavenger

im a little tea pot
Glad you and the bike are ok but this statement is a little confusing.


its only a small ish roundabout so i moved left about 20 ft from it so that i dont hold the drivers up behind me around the roundabout (it goes up a steepish hill directly after the roundabout with a cycle lane on the left) to be fair i should have stuck well back and taken primary but hindsight is a wonderful thing!!
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
its only a small ish roundabout so i moved left about 20 ft from it so that i dont hold the drivers up behind me around the roundabout (it goes up a steepish hill directly after the roundabout with a cycle lane on the left) to be fair i should have stuck well back and taken primary but hindsight is a wonderful thing!!

Sorry to say, it sounds like you were too close to the car in front. There could be any number of reasons why they would suddenly hit the brakes.

I agree with everyone who has advised you to take primary through a RAB, and make sure you've got enough stopping distance.

Still, hopefully no lasting damage.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
its only a small ish roundabout so i moved left about 20 ft from it so that i dont hold the drivers up behind me around the roundabout (it goes up a steepish hill directly after the roundabout with a cycle lane on the left) to be fair i should have stuck well back and taken primary but hindsight is a wonderful thing!!


So you rode into this car? It was your fault for failing to keep sufficient look out or control of your bike. Still not sure of what happened and your chronology of events leading up to your collision with the other party as you mention a lot of irrelevant stuff. Given this you are probably at fault so chalk it down to experience. You say you work in insurance claims and see the erratic manouevres drivers pull. You should be more careful then. I guess you now know a few erratic manoeuvres that cyclists make!

GWS.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
he was infront of me but I moved left of him cause of the roundabout to give other cars room.

Still not sure I follow, were you behind him AND to the left, or were you beside him?
 

Bicycle

Guest
I'm very sorry you had a wallop. It is never nice. Don't let it put you off riding. These things happen, but rarely.

I'm afraid i found your description of events impossible to understand, but my impression after reading it a few times is that you were following the car you hit.

That being so, the fault would lie with you. You need to allow room for the vehicle in front to stop suddenly.

As to why the driver didn't give details, I'm not sure speculation is helpful.

Yes, he may not have been on the road legally. Equally, he may have considered it a minor issue and wanted to be on his way. Your injuries may not have been apparent to him. Some road users might see a sore hip and a grazed elbow as 'not real injuries'. I'm not saying that myself, but some might.

If the scenario is as I imagine it (you hit him) then I am dubious about going to the Police and saying "I was at fault in a collision and the other driver didn't give me his details".

If you are OK and the bicycle is OK, I'd learn the lesson (which I imagine you already have) and hop back on the bike.

Some will disagree with me on that. It's just one view among many. Follow the guidance that suits you best.
 

MissTillyFlop

Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
Really?



I would say the car driver...

I would report this to the Police; he should have given you his details!

If you hit a vehicle in the rear, you are at fault. Not that you should ever state this, but this is how insurance assessors see the situation, so unless he was left hooked, he would be at fault for not leaving enough gap.
 

MissTillyFlop

Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
Unless they overtake you and pull in suddenly and too close whilst braking.

That's what I just said:

If you hit a vehicle in the rear, you are at fault. Not that you should ever state this, but this is how insurance assessors see the situation, so unless he was left hooked, he would be at fault for not leaving enough gap.
 
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