StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
- Location
- Portsmouth
FNRttC - could it be a club?
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frank9755
Cyclist
- Location
- West London
Just clicked through. Looks like the best conclusion. For a new person coming along for the first time, having to pay £12 for insurance, or a nominal £1 if they are already in a cycling organisation, doesn't feel like a the sort of barrier that will exclude people.
As ever, great pictures!
Clearly had a bad experience with one in early life. Too late to do anything about it now. His Room 101 would be the SKS warehouse!
As ever, great pictures!
Some cranky views on mudguards certainly...... the man clearly has something against them
Clearly had a bad experience with one in early life. Too late to do anything about it now. His Room 101 would be the SKS warehouse!
clivedb
Guru
- Location
- Milton Keynes
Happy Christmas everyone - I look forward to the night rides in 2011!
Clive
Clive
Aperitif
Meme bar
- Location
- ...I don't have much idea - really.
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
Merry Christmas lovely FNRttC peeps. Ride safe in 2011
StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
- Location
- Portsmouth
See you on Friday! 
StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
- Location
- Portsmouth
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I'm running in to the sand here......
the options are
1. Continue as a Cheam and Morden ride. Except we can't because the issue of non-members rears its ugly head http://www.ctc.org.u...mber_Groups.pdf
2. Make each ride a CTC event. That gets us off the non-member hook, but each ride to be advertised in Cycle and every rider has to sign a disclaimer for every ride - and it doesn't grant non-CTC members third party insurance
3. Become an affiliate of the CTC. Start-up cost £72. That's not entirely bad. I could insist that all non-CTC members pay their twelve quid to become members of the club. That's tough on LCC members and BC members and even those people who have pukka third party insurance through their house insurance. http://www.ctc.org.u...-Affiliates.pdf Membership of the Club would be a quid, but non-CTC members would be charged £12. The real worry is that there is no way of knowing whether the helpers (TECs and Wayfinders) would be covered.
4. Go for event insurance through BC. That covers everything, but costs £60 per 100 riders - effectively £720 a year - that would have to be recouped by charging people - anything up to a quid a ride. I'd be forever collecting money.
5. Become a BC affiliated club. Pretty much the same as 3 above, but start-up cost £88 and non-BC members would be charged £24 each.
6. Become an LCC affiliate. My first choice, but eight months of phone calls and promises have resulted in precisely nothing - they simply haven't got it together on the affiliates thing. The low point is receiving e-mails saying that they wanted to double the membership. The other low point was being told before Christmas that two people employed by the LCC couldn't get together because of the snow....
7. Join the LCC and run it as an LCC ride. I'm still working on this one
In the long run it's got to become a stand-alone club with a modest membership fee and access to insurance, but it looks as if 2011 will be a sort of halfway station.
the options are
1. Continue as a Cheam and Morden ride. Except we can't because the issue of non-members rears its ugly head http://www.ctc.org.u...mber_Groups.pdf
2. Make each ride a CTC event. That gets us off the non-member hook, but each ride to be advertised in Cycle and every rider has to sign a disclaimer for every ride - and it doesn't grant non-CTC members third party insurance
3. Become an affiliate of the CTC. Start-up cost £72. That's not entirely bad. I could insist that all non-CTC members pay their twelve quid to become members of the club. That's tough on LCC members and BC members and even those people who have pukka third party insurance through their house insurance. http://www.ctc.org.u...-Affiliates.pdf Membership of the Club would be a quid, but non-CTC members would be charged £12. The real worry is that there is no way of knowing whether the helpers (TECs and Wayfinders) would be covered.
4. Go for event insurance through BC. That covers everything, but costs £60 per 100 riders - effectively £720 a year - that would have to be recouped by charging people - anything up to a quid a ride. I'd be forever collecting money.
5. Become a BC affiliated club. Pretty much the same as 3 above, but start-up cost £88 and non-BC members would be charged £24 each.
6. Become an LCC affiliate. My first choice, but eight months of phone calls and promises have resulted in precisely nothing - they simply haven't got it together on the affiliates thing. The low point is receiving e-mails saying that they wanted to double the membership. The other low point was being told before Christmas that two people employed by the LCC couldn't get together because of the snow....
7. Join the LCC and run it as an LCC ride. I'm still working on this one
In the long run it's got to become a stand-alone club with a modest membership fee and access to insurance, but it looks as if 2011 will be a sort of halfway station.
I do hope that the LCC can deliver as reading the options and the terms and conditions of the others they each have an unpalatable problems.
Collecting money could be a rather unpleasant process. I'd not like to be carrying 100 £1 coins for the duration of the ride. Which would mean that a secretary would need to be on hand to collect all monies on the night and get it safely away whilst the event goes on. Any other method and you'll start requiring specific bank accounts, visits to the bank with cheques or being charged for the privilege by the likes of PayPal. :?
Collecting money could be a rather unpleasant process. I'd not like to be carrying 100 £1 coins for the duration of the ride. Which would mean that a secretary would need to be on hand to collect all monies on the night and get it safely away whilst the event goes on. Any other method and you'll start requiring specific bank accounts, visits to the bank with cheques or being charged for the privilege by the likes of PayPal. :?
My club run a sportive style ride called the Kentish Killer to raise funds for the club and also support the air ambulance, with something like a 70-30 club-charity split. I know its not an identical situation but is there any way you could take say a 2% share from what is raised on the Martletts ride to cover expenses and keep the rides running cost free? With the premise being that by taking that small amount of money future Martletts ride will benefit.
PpPete
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chandler's Ford
Whatever is decided about affiliation, I'd be happy to add on the little extra necessary to pay for the convenience of Paypal.
StuAff
Silencing his legs regularly
- Location
- Portsmouth
What an absolute pain this all is...
An idea, that probably isn't better than any of the above. My LBS has its own club, that affiliates to the CTC. They do a 'second claim' membership that costs £5, plus £12.50 for the CTC third-party insurance. I had thought of signing up for that myself, insurance is of course the root of this problem. I appreciate that most of us wouldn't want to join a club based round here. Brixton Cycles (for example) do anything like this?
An idea, that probably isn't better than any of the above. My LBS has its own club, that affiliates to the CTC. They do a 'second claim' membership that costs £5, plus £12.50 for the CTC third-party insurance. I had thought of signing up for that myself, insurance is of course the root of this problem. I appreciate that most of us wouldn't want to join a club based round here. Brixton Cycles (for example) do anything like this?
