Oldhippy
Cynical idealist
It may well be, but good God man! Where to start, refined fruit mixing with natural fruit, fruit in bread alone should demand a small flogging as an idea alone! 😁
Food for touring
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mudsticks
Obviously an Aubergine
Oldhippy
Cynical idealist
The human race is doomed I tell you! 😁
Andy in Germany
Guru
- Location
- Freiburg im Breisgau
I've heard some people make a paste out of peanuts and put that in bread too. There really are no limits to the debauchery...
mudsticks
Obviously an Aubergine
It probably is..
But pretty sure it's not bcs of banana sandwiches .
Whatever you do , don't tell OH about malt loaf..
Or hot cross buns for that matter..😇
presta
Guru
These are my criteria for a touring diet:
1) High calorie, low volume/weight (ie: no fruit &veg)
2) No specialist products that aren't available in every village shop (eg: energy bars etc)
3) Nothing perishable that will go off in a baking hot pannier (no fresh milk/butter/chocolate)
4) Nothing that requires specialist utensils not found in a hostel kitchen
5) Quick and easy to cook in a crowded hostel kitchen (2 pans/15 minutes max)
6) Cheap (about a quarter the price of hostel meals last time I checked)
7) No cooking and minimal washing up at breakfast time
From that lot I get:
Breakfast: Muesli, it's more energy dense than other cereals, and won't turn to crumbs when it's crammed into the luggage. A fifth of the packet, not the 50g 'portion' marked on the label, along with a whole 500cc carton of UHT milk. About 800kcals.
During the day: I start with half a loaf made into sandwiches with fish paste, that's about 1200kcal. Then I start on the biscuits, a whole packet is usually about another 1000kcal. Not chocolate biscuits unless they're individually wrapped. Sometimes I'll have pasties/nuts instead for a change, but they're higher in fat.
Evening meal: Usually something like a tin of chilli or curry with rice. Again, that's a third of a 500g packet of rice, not the 'portion' on the label. Alternatively, pasta with a tub of Dolmio sauce. About 1000kcals.
Then in the evening more bix/nuts/etc to fill up. I need about 4500-5000kcals/day.
For eating large quantities, grazing continually is better, so it feeds calories as you use them, and doesn't leave you feeling bloated after pushing a lot down all at once.
Re: Water, I carry four litres, and generally make sure I drink it all. On hot days I'll stop and buy more en-route.
Re: Bowels, I have a long history of overtraining, and that has a particular effect on my digestive system. In moderation, over-exercise causes very large quantities of very loose stools, but if pushed further, my bowel shuts down altogether. Not hard stools, just nothing at all. Unlike when I'm on tour, when I'm at home I eat about 8-9 portions of fruit and veg a day, and get about 80% more fibre than the 30g/day recommended, but I don't find it makes much difference to my bowels, one way or the other.
1) High calorie, low volume/weight (ie: no fruit &veg)
2) No specialist products that aren't available in every village shop (eg: energy bars etc)
3) Nothing perishable that will go off in a baking hot pannier (no fresh milk/butter/chocolate)
4) Nothing that requires specialist utensils not found in a hostel kitchen
5) Quick and easy to cook in a crowded hostel kitchen (2 pans/15 minutes max)
6) Cheap (about a quarter the price of hostel meals last time I checked)
7) No cooking and minimal washing up at breakfast time
From that lot I get:
Breakfast: Muesli, it's more energy dense than other cereals, and won't turn to crumbs when it's crammed into the luggage. A fifth of the packet, not the 50g 'portion' marked on the label, along with a whole 500cc carton of UHT milk. About 800kcals.
During the day: I start with half a loaf made into sandwiches with fish paste, that's about 1200kcal. Then I start on the biscuits, a whole packet is usually about another 1000kcal. Not chocolate biscuits unless they're individually wrapped. Sometimes I'll have pasties/nuts instead for a change, but they're higher in fat.
Evening meal: Usually something like a tin of chilli or curry with rice. Again, that's a third of a 500g packet of rice, not the 'portion' on the label. Alternatively, pasta with a tub of Dolmio sauce. About 1000kcals.
Then in the evening more bix/nuts/etc to fill up. I need about 4500-5000kcals/day.
For eating large quantities, grazing continually is better, so it feeds calories as you use them, and doesn't leave you feeling bloated after pushing a lot down all at once.
Re: Water, I carry four litres, and generally make sure I drink it all. On hot days I'll stop and buy more en-route.
Re: Bowels, I have a long history of overtraining, and that has a particular effect on my digestive system. In moderation, over-exercise causes very large quantities of very loose stools, but if pushed further, my bowel shuts down altogether. Not hard stools, just nothing at all. Unlike when I'm on tour, when I'm at home I eat about 8-9 portions of fruit and veg a day, and get about 80% more fibre than the 30g/day recommended, but I don't find it makes much difference to my bowels, one way or the other.
OP
OP
All uphill
Still rolling along
- Location
- Somerset
Thanks again.
I've just done a gentle 20 miles and made a point of drinking a litre of water and a coffee in place of the single cuppa I would normally drink. Tomorrow I'm out on a 35 mile hilly ride and will make a point of drinking more again and see how things go.
Ms AU commented today that I never seem to pee when we are out cycling and that that's not normal for a 67 year old man with the usual prostate issues, so, with your help, I'm hoping I can get comfortable doing 3 or 4 consecutive 60 mile days by late May.
Edit for clarity: I'm used to 60 mile days, just this digestive problem that needs sorting.
I've just done a gentle 20 miles and made a point of drinking a litre of water and a coffee in place of the single cuppa I would normally drink. Tomorrow I'm out on a 35 mile hilly ride and will make a point of drinking more again and see how things go.
Ms AU commented today that I never seem to pee when we are out cycling and that that's not normal for a 67 year old man with the usual prostate issues, so, with your help, I'm hoping I can get comfortable doing 3 or 4 consecutive 60 mile days by late May.
Edit for clarity: I'm used to 60 mile days, just this digestive problem that needs sorting.
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Fab Foodie
hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
- Location
- Kirton, Devon.
Pork pies.
That's all - oh and beer....
@mods pls close the thread...
That's all - oh and beer....
@mods pls close the thread...
- Location
- The TerrorVortex
Bacon rolls. Vital part of a balanced diet.
Sterlo
Early Retirement Planning
- Location
- East Riding of Yorkshire
Surely 2, one in each hand, that's balanced.
mudsticks
Obviously an Aubergine
Ooo that first beer at the end of the day when you really feel you've earned itAbsolutely. Regular fluid intake is essentialView attachment 636685
It's quite nice sometimes you'll turn up on a bike clearly having travelled some distance and you get the first one bought for you .
It's certainly not the case that the whole world is hostile to cyclists
Fab Foodie
hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
- Location
- Kirton, Devon.
Eh?Ooo that first beer at the end of the day when you really feel you've earned it
It's quite nice sometimes you'll turn up on a bike clearly having travelled some distance and you get the first one bought for you .
It's certainly not the case that the whole world is hostile to cyclists
You need to come on a Fridays tour.
It's that first Beer, Calvados, Pastis at mid-morning coffee stop that counts. Why earn it?
mudsticks
Obviously an Aubergine
True enough..
I need to get over that whole nonsense protestant work ethic bahoolux.
I don't need to 'earn' it..
I just 'deserve' it.. 💃👍🏼
OldShep
Über Member
- Location
- South West Scotland
I know we’re supposed to keep hydrated but a litre in 20 mls seems ridiculous. Unless you sweat a lot and i can’t see that happening on a gentle 20. I’d be spending more time on the roadside than on the bike.
My last two rides of 30 mls I’ve set off with one bottle half full and brought some back each time.
