Football World Cup - Russia 2018

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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
"Socrates a doctor of medicine,a heavy drinker and smoker"
So it says in this video from the 1982 WC,on 14 mins 45 secs.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBC02hKBTlQ&t=383s

I was going to post that he's still with us,but he sadly died aged 57'
"The Brazilian's health started to deteroriate. On 19 August 2011 Sócrates was admitted to intensive care in the Albert Einstein Hospital in São Paulo with gastrointestinal bleedingsecondary to portal hypertension and was discharged nine days later.[28] The following month he spent 17 days in hospital with a liver ailment.[29] On 1 December 2011, he was hospitalised with food poisoning which developed into septic shock and he was put on life-support.[30] He died on 4 December 2011 at the age of 57".
 

ozboz

Guru
Location
Richmond ,Surrey
Unless of course you're not English. And given that this is a site on the internet and therefore available across the globe......:rolleyes:

I wouldn’t expect people of other nations to support us , or any nation other than their own , but , even if we do not go through I will be happy for those that do and be respectful of them if they got there fair and square
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Oh I see, you didn't watch it...

Not only did I watch it live, I went back to iplayer and watched it again to check...

Exquisite pass from Henderson to set Sterling off on a run that started from inside England's half of the pitch to take the ball to the edge of the Swedish penalty area. He then plays it sideways past the Swedish defender... the question is whether he meant to pass it to Kane or was trying to play around the defender himself... Having watched it again, I still think it was intended to be a pass.

Maybe it's open to interpretation but either way, the end result is that he created a genuine scoring opportunity when moments earlier Sweden had been on the attack, and if Kane's shot had gone a few inches the other side of the post, people would be remembering it very differently.

As for his two chances just before half time, for the first I think he knew he was offside (even if the linesman left it very late to flag) and that made him hesitate, for the second perhaps he should have passed it to Kane earlier but it's easy for us to say that from the comfort of our sofas. Also have to give the Swedish keeper credit for getting a hand to the ball to make it harder for him.

I will take the opinion of several top ex-players that he played brilliantly over the views of the assembled experts of the internet. Like Neymar, I think Sterling has a reputation problem that means people pre-judge his performances. His record of 23 goals this season at City shows that he is not the same wayward player he was in his early days at Liverpool, yet that's all that some people seem to want to see when he plays.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Sterling, as I've said before, isn't perfect by any means but he's the only player who has that element of difference and surprise.
If he had a bit more composure in front of goal, he'd be even better.
I'm not sure if it's nerves at this level that's stopping him.
Vardy??? You're having a giraffe!
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Sterling isn't your typical England forward. He's tricky and quick. Sure his end product can sometimes be lacking. But he can do stuff that nobody else in the team can do

Just because he doesn't play like Shearer or Lineker or even Kane doesn't mean that he's not a valuable and integral part of the team

If anything he's the modern day Peter Beardsley
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
I will take the opinion of several top ex-players that he played brilliantly over the views of the assembled experts of the internet.

As a general point, the problem with that is ex-footballers are very prone to look after their mates who are still playing.

Thus many comments are dishonest and should be treated with suspicion.

Equally, there will be some old disputes that are continued via the media.

Being outside the game, we will not know where most of the alliances and enmities lie.
 

Milzy

Guru
Unless of course you're not English. And given that this is a site on the internet and therefore available across the globe......:rolleyes:
Ignore him, C.C is getting more like public Facebook threads everyday, the touch of class it had has gone down the toilet. :sad:
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
As an internet non-entity - but one who couldn't give a stuff about Sterling one way or the other - I wonder how long we should keep playing him with no measurable end product.

His last game for England was his best of the World Cup, but he still carries no threat in the penalty area - it's a fluff or a stumble or a weedy shot every time.
 

cisamcgu

Legendary Member
Location
Merseyside-ish
As an internet non-entity - but one who couldn't give a stuff about Sterling one way or the other - I wonder how long we should keep playing him with no measurable end product.

His last game for England was his best of the World Cup, but he still carries no threat in the penalty area - it's a fluff or a stumble or a weedy shot every time.

I agree with your point, however, and I think this is very important, when he is fluffing and stumbling about in and around the penalty area, there are often as many as 3 defenders around him, 3 defenders that are not marking anyone else - at least that is what I see - but I know very little about football so I may be completely wrong :smile:
 

SteveF

Guest
I've changed my mind somewhat on Sterling, I still think he needs to convert more of (or some) of his chances, but, he is tricky and creates disarray in the opposition, which will bring opportunities for others, even if they end up as set pieces.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Yeah a guest of Putin at some stage i'd say:smile:. Imagine if it'd been England v Russia in the semis and 'Big Sam' was incharge.
Ok Big Sam, вы берете погружение, и мы даем вам большой коричневый конверт с большим количеством рублей в нем! Мы знаем, что вы жадный феккер, который не может переусердствовать с backhander, так что об этом?:whistle:

Mod Note:
@Accy cyclist could you please provide a translation of the Russian text in your post, for the benefit of us that don't speak the language, aslo in compliance of the forum rules that say any non English language text must be accompained by an English translation.
Thank you so much!
 
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