Froome and Wiggins TUEs

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David Walsh, I was duped by Sky.
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...ky-now-brailsford-will-regret-inviting-me-in/

I'm kind of losing interest in this. @Crackle I read an article on exercise induced asthma yesterday, explaining how the prevalence goes up in endurance sports with a particular stress on breathing, so lots of (say) swimmers get it but fewer (say) boxers. But I am wearying of this and can't be arsed to find the link.
I think I may have read it. I don't particularly subscribe to the sudden rise in asthmatics conspiracy. Asthma is real, it's far better understood today than even 10 years ago. Therefore you have people given a much more accurate diagnosis, where in the past it might have been missed or dismissed. You also have a real rise in poor air quality, in particular there are some significant links and research on the effects of diesel particulates on asthma and heart disease.

As for Walsh I don't know what to think yet. he was a bit giddy after Armstrong and it seems he too is being drawn into a bit of reputational protectionism.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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I think I may have read it. I don't particularly subscribe to the sudden rise in asthmatics conspiracy. Asthma is real, it's far better understood today than even 10 years ago. Therefore you have people given a much more accurate diagnosis, where in the past it might have been missed or dismissed. You also have a real rise in poor air quality, in particular there are some significant links and research on the effects of diesel particulates on asthma and heart disease.

As for Walsh I don't know what to think yet. he was a bit giddy after Armstrong and it seems he too is being drawn into a bit of reputational protectionism.
Walsh is an opportunistic tit.
 
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And miss the racing on account of one person who has broken no regulation, but suddenly is a pariah? Oh how the Brits love their heroes to have feet of clay.
Nose, face, spite, cut off to. No one will notice one less in the seats anyway. Just go and enjoy the bike racing!
but if Wiggins was a Spaniard or an Italian you would be calling for his head.
 

booze and cake

probably out cycling
Cycling in lack of credibility shocker.....never....meh. I've given up having any credibility for clean cycling, in its current state its so far removed from riding on 'pan y agua' that I can't relate to it anymore, or idolise these people as heroes, when it just looks like a freak show and battle of who has the best Doctors.

Yes I agree the UCI is at fault, it has been for years and I've not seen any evidence it has changed its ways for the better, and so if the guidance/enforcement from the top is lacking, then the whole thing is like a house of cards.

Sky may not have technically broken any rules, but its actions are definitely not in the spirit of clean cycling. Is this the real reason Sky did'nt join the MPCC? If marginal gains have been extended to abusing the TUE system in the hope an intravenus asthma treatment may give a slight performance edge over another non injected asthma treatment, then this just confirms my battle of the Doctor assessment.

Sky likes to give the impression of being open and a champion of clean cycling, but it seems more about creating an illusion of clean cycling to me. I'm paraphrasing here but it sounds like ' oh no siree, Sir Brad has never had injections.......oh apart from those ones we did'nt tell you about, we were rather hoping you would'nt find out about that (blame the bitter Russians!), but they are only for asthma, no really they were'...If they were'nt considered performance enhancing why was this method chosen I ask myself.

When we find out Sky are not being as open as we thought, every response it filtered through the PR/legal department, there's an army of lawyers beavering away trying to justify these dodgy practices. Is there any cycling involved in cycling these days? Its not so much the fox being in charge of the hen house, as much as all the hens are dead, all we are left with is foxes.

And Froome's quote about not being one for breaking rules is a bit rich, the fact he hacked into the Kenyan cycling federation email account to enter himself into the 2006 World Champs in Salzburg shows a pretty blatant disregard for rules if you ask me.

Finally lets not forget Sky is a Murdoch enterprise, hell will have frozen over long before I expect any branch of that organisation to demonstrate even the tiniest shred of moral fibre. I'm just off to snort a load of coke and amphetamines, its for my hay fever it is, honest. Watch me smash those segments this afternoon:whistle:.
 
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Excellent article and a reminder that people's needs are real. I know someone with a Cortisol deficiency who need to take Cortisone when he's ill. It's real, diagnosed and tested by a consultant endocronologist and yet he competes at a high level as well. I would like to see Wiggins release a story like that though.

Wiggins releases photo evidence of his kitten allergy pre-Tour
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rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Perhaps, he deserves some slack for Armstrong as did Kimmage. Kimmage has used all his up though and if Walsh goes around saying, they'll be sorry they messed with me, too much, he might run out of slack too.
It wasn't a cogent argument I put forward, but to be honest, I can't be arsed to counter the massive over-reaction to this story by those on here and elsewhere.
 

Flying_Monkey

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Callum Skinner's response seems entirely reasonable and legitimate:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/skinner-releases-medical-records-following-tue-leak/
 
Cat scan ?

Shaun
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