Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[Tin Pot]

In my eyes it's got to have the potential akin to tax avoidance......that doesn't break any rules but is it right?

Shaun

Indeed, in every sport there are a bunch of halfwits that have their own private notion of the Spirit of the Sport that they want to foist on the rest of the world. For these people The Rules are simply Not Enough.

You usually can tell them from the rest of the population by the torch in one hand and pitchfork in the other.

 

[Incontinentia Buttocks]

But still hasn't broke any rules?

 

[dragon72]

I don't like the grey area aspect of this either.
I take a hard line on this. I think that Use of medication with performance enhancing qualities, Therapeutic or otherwise, shouldn't be given Exemptions. If you're too sick to compete without them, you're too sick to compete. Sorry. Stay at home, get better and come back when you are able to train and compete without performance enhancing drugs.
I don't like Wiggins talking about level playing fields either. Reminds me of the riders and their apologists who have said that the only reason they doped was to be able to keep up with the dopers.
Froome is right. Grey areas are not good.

 

[rich p]

This is getting like Facebook!

 

[Strathlubnaig]

Callum Skinner's response seems entirely reasonable and legitimate:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/skinner-releases-medical-records-following-tue-leak/

Fair enough from the lad, Wiggins on the other hand is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

 

[keithmac]

I agree with some of the previous posts, if you're too ill to compete you should sit it out..

It appears you're hard pressed to find a "clean" rider (which is really bad for those who go by the spirit of the rules).

Surely the more that comes out the further into the gutter professional cycling sinks?.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Indeed, in every sport there are a bunch of halfwits that have their own private notion of the Spirit of the Sport that they want to foist on the rest of the world. For these people The Rules are simply Not Enough.

You usually can tell them from the rest of the population by the torch in one hand and pitchfork in the other.

Thanks for your considered and polite response. Do call again.

 

[dellzeqq]

But still hasn't broke any rules?

he's deceived us, the Great British Cycling Public because he said He Didn't Have Injections and He Had Injections. In his Bradley Bottom. And We Are Not Happy.

And we've every right not to be happy.

And Dave Brailsford has come across as a stumbling hypocrite, which is also not making us happy.

I don't like Wiggins talking about level playing fields either.

I think the use of 'level playing field' (repeated by Brailsford) is about as stupid as it gets. Straight out of the Lance Armstrong School of PR.

In all seriousness I never, ever expected this. That might strike some of you as naive (and, given Sky's choice of physicians, you're entitled to think that) but I genuinely thought Wiggins was a straight talking chap.

 

[Dogtrousers]

In all seriousness I never, ever expected this. That might strike some of you as naive (and, given Sky's choice of physicians, you're entitled to thing that) but I genuinely thought Wiggins was a straight talking chap.

You surprise me. Stretching the rules up to breaking point was exactly what I expected from Sky. Which is why I'm rather unmoved by this. So the Wiggster told some porkies and was a bit underhand. Meh. 'Tis what I expect from competitive sports people. Brailsford I've always thought was well shifty, and so it has proved.

If I want honesty with the sweat and toil I'll look elsewhere at things where there isn't so much dosh at stake. Like me, heroically riding round Kent until my poor knees hurt. I'm a star. (And there's absolutely nothing wrong with drinking that much coffee!)

 

[ColinJ]

You surprise me. Stretching the rules up to breaking point was exactly what I expected from Sky. Which is why I'm rather unmoved by this. So the Wiggster told some porkies and was a bit underhand. Meh. 'Tis what I expect from competitive sports people. Brailsford I've always thought was well shifty, and so it has proved.

If I want honesty with the sweat and toil I'll look elsewhere at things where there isn't so much dosh at stake. Like me, heroically riding round Kent until my poor knees hurt. I'm a star. (And there's absolutely nothing wrong with drinking that much coffee!)

All I can say is ... No More Heroes!

 

[Dogtrousers]

All I can say is ... No More Heroes!

What ever happened to ... Bradley Wiggins?
He got a sneeze-jab
That made his arse burn.
What ever happened to the heroes?

 

[Twizit]

Stretching the rules up to breaking point was exactly what I expected from Sky. Which is why I'm rather unmoved by this. So the Wiggster told some porkies and was a bit underhand. Meh. 'Tis what I expect from competitive sports people.

I think this sums up the last 10 pages of this "thing" for me.

 

[oldroadman]

Hmmm. "No one will notice one less in the seats" has an unfortunate echo of "everyone is doing it"...

That's an opinion you may hold. I did not say that. How one phrase in quotes correlates to the other in quotes I don't see, but anyone can have an opinion and express it as they wish.

 

[swansonj]

That's an opinion you may hold. I did not say that. How one phrase in quotes correlates to the other in quotes I don't see, but anyone can have an opinion and express it as they wish.

The parallel is in my mind; I'm not seeking to claim it has any absolute compelling force. But for me the parallel is between a pro cyclist saying "everyone else is taking drugs; if I don't, the doped races will still take place, the only difference is I would miss out, so I might as well dope too", and a spectator (me) saying " the event will go ahead anyway; if I don't go, the only difference is that I miss out, so I might as well go too".

 

[Flying_Monkey]

A typically good and thorough piece by Inner Ring which dispells some of the 'move along, nothing to see here' arguments...

http://inrng.com/2016/09/wiggins-tue-sday/#more-29972