Garden Waste

[jowwy]

I'm confused now Jowwy. If you understand and agree with the points of Alex321 then what on earth is your question? You already knew the answer, it might almost be suggested that you started the thread just to pick a contrary stance to anyone that posted.....

I'll edit my posts below (in BOLD) just to clarify my statements for anyone struggling with the nuances of what I am saying.





This is clearly not aimed at someone who has the desire, ability and time to legally do part of the job themselves to keep the cost down, trading their time and effort for a financial saving.

I'm sure, given the option and a great price that included taking away the cuttings if you wanted them to and wasn't any cheaper if they didn't, then you would accept the offer?
Your original example of the £180 for four hours work may initially sound a bit expensive, but in reality, once the back ground costs are factored in (Those 2yr waste carrier licences aren't free you know?) as well as the cost and time of disposing of the cuttings (maybe £40-50 to the site that accepts them, plus probably an hour of the contractors time to travel, weigh in and unload) that £180 is suddenly down to £130-140 and it's not 4hrs work but 5 and hey presto £45/hr is now £25/hr and out of that £25 has to come some tax, some liability insurance, any fuel used, deductions for vehicles and equipment that aren't free and don't last for ever, accountants fees (lets face it, great gardeners might not be top drawer finance bods but still need to file some kind of tax return) and hopefully, just maybe, there might be some money left to take out some kind of wage that pays better than stacking shelves in Tescos!

Like I said way up-thread, some people know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.

Work doesnt warrant £45hr….no matter how you break it down. Its general garden maintenance.

I think the work warrants £15/20hr tops……..and thats pushing it tbh.

but everyone has a right to their view.

 

[jowwy]

i hope none of you pay a gardener fulltime…..you’d all be bankrupt within a few weeks at those prices.

 

[raleighnut]

Free here, you just bag it up and ring the council. Up to 15 bags (Privet trimmings and Brambles) plus up to 5 'large' items (settees mattresses etc)

I think Leicester Council know it's cheaper than clearing 'fly tipping'

 

[presta]

Free here (Braintree). We have:
Green bin: garden waste, fortnightly
Plastic sacks: recyclables, same day as green bins
Green bucket: food waste, weekly
Grey bin: everything not listed above, fortnightly, on the weeks between the other collections
The green bin is currently suspended during the winter months, resumes March, I think.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Free, fortnightly through late spring and summer, in Cardiff. I have two large green wheelie bins, although I did have to pay a one-off extra cost for the second bin.

Far fewer, and not regular, collections through winter

 

[I like Skol]

Work doesnt warrant £45hr….no matter how you break it down. Its general garden maintenance.

Either you are not listening, or you're choosing to ignore the facts because they don't fit with a point you are trying to make?

It isn't £45 an hour, as you clearly explained in your earlier post.

trim bushes, trim some over hanging branches from neighbours garden and cut the grass and then on top pay for the removal of said garden waste.....so in all it cost £180 for 4hrs ( 1 person ).

The cost included an element for the on-site work, an amount for legal disposal of the waste and some time to cover the work involved in the disposal. Certainly NOT £45/hr for the labour element.

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I don't know where you get that from but if you employ a gardener for the average hourly rate and this includes the removal of anything other than minimum sweepings/trimmings then you are almost certainly being party to illegal tipping, tax evasion or both. The figures just don't add up (unless you are happy exploiting people on or below the minimum wage and needing additional govt income credits to make ends meet).

 

[CanucksTraveller]

£40 per year in North Herts for one standard wheelie bin every 2 weeks.

And if anyone wonders, it's £1 for an argument with Jowwy on the one thread, or £8 for a course of 10 arguments on different threads, that's for the really committed masochist.

 

[jowwy]

Either you are not listening, or you're choosing to ignore the facts because they don't fit with a point you are trying to make?

It isn't £45 an hour, as you clearly explained in your earlier post.

The cost included an element for the on-site work, an amount for legal disposal of the waste and some time to cover the work involved in the disposal. Certainly NOT £45/hr for the labour element.

I don't know where you get that from but if you employ a gardener for the average hourly rate and this includes the removal of anything other than minimum sweepings/trimmings then you are almost certainly being party to illegal tipping, tax evasion or both. The figures just don't add up (unless you are happy exploiting people on or below the minimum wage and needing additional govt income credits to make ends meet).

That post came from a “quote my job website” and it lists the hourly rates you can expect to pay for maintenance work on your garden…….£12/15hr is way above minimum wage, so no exploitation.

and many workers in the uk are on less than that per hour and still pay tax, NI and pensions…….so are not party to tax evasion and i would have it a guess that many gardeners employed around the UK are earning around that much per hour……..

and even if the element of waste removal was £40/50 then the hourly rate would still be around £30/35hr…….again, i bet there aint a gardener employed fulltime in the Uk on that much per hour And they would still pay tax, NI, pension, fuel etc etc etc

 

[jowwy]

£40 per year in North Herts for one standard wheelie bin every 2 weeks.

And if anyone wonders, it's £1 for an argument with Jowwy on the one thread, or £8 for a course of 10 arguments on different threads, that's for the really committed masochist.

Or £5 just to reply to jowwy personally about nothing within the thread………oh and dont forget to pay your £8

 

[jowwy]

Its funny aint it…..two people dont agree on something, yet only one is accused of being argumentative

takes two to tango……..and two to argue. But on this forum only one will be accused of being the argumentative, cause the other is a nice friendly chappy at heart.

 

[MontyVeda]

Why doesn't @jowwy set up as a sole trader, doing gardening and charges £12-£15 per hour to his clients, then in 12 months time he can report back and tell us how he's getting on

 

[jowwy]

Why doesn't @jowwy set up as a sole trader, doing gardening and charges £12-£15 per hour to his clients, then in 12 months time he can report back and tell us how he's getting on

Id be earning the same as the gardener who is employed by asda and the guy stacking the shelves of the food you purchase…

lets say £15hr on a 40hr week…..thats £600 a week before tax. 52 wks in a year, if you dont take holidays, so thats around £31.2k a year

lots of people around the UK earning a lot less than that before tax, NI and pension.

 

[MontyVeda]

Id be earning the same as the gardener who is employed by asda and the guy stacking the shelves of the food you purchase….

what part of 'sole trader' do you not understand?

 

[I like Skol]

what part of 'sole trader' do you not understand?

I think we are wasting our time?

 

[jowwy]

I think we are wasting our time?

No….i just dont agree with your opinion, the same as you dont agree with mine…

all you want is for me to agree with your opinion, that £45hr incuding removals is a bargain……sorry but i disagree