Gaz down in Streatham

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Gaz - what was the attitude of the driver?

Best wishes for a speedy recovery Gaz. I have to agree with User3143, to much speed in a bus lane on the left of almost stationary traffic, almost certainly 50/50. I got caught like that a few years ago, in a cycle lane on the left of stop/start traffic carrying too much speed, seen the car coming, couldn't do much about it, tried to turn down the entrance on my left, the one he was turning into, went into him sideways and face planted on his bonnet, looked like I'd gone 10 rounds with Lenox Lewis the next day.

I thought the speed of Gaz was pretty sedate, if anything the car was going too fast probably faster than Gaz himself...!

Bullshit to 50/50!
 

As Easy As Riding A Bike

Well-Known Member
Bullshit to 50/50!

That's what I was thinking - but I expressed it a little more politely!

The driver has just assumed the bus lane would be clear. Given that he should be giving way to a lane he is crossing, he is at fault.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Erm.......100% driver............

Gaz was in a 'huge' bus lane, not a bit of paint...........

Check the shoulder out in about 2-3 days, then a week or two more................... and the elbow.............. it won't hurt now..... it will shortly............... :blush:
 
Gaz - what was the attitude of the driver?



I thought the speed of Gaz was pretty sedate, if anything the car was going too fast probably faster than Gaz himself...!

Bullshit to 50/50!


That's what I was thinking - but I expressed it a little more politely!

The driver has just assumed the bus lane would be clear. Given that he should be giving way to a lane he is crossing, he is at fault.

I agree with both of those comments, Gaz was probably not doing more than 15mph. The driver didn't even look just saw the gap and went for it. IMO 100% drivers fault.

P.S. Sorry forgot to add "Get Well Soon Gaz".
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
I had the exact same accident last year.
The driver who hit me admitted responsibility.

The driver would have seen it was a bus lane, his sight lines would have been blocked so should have proceeded with caution expecting that a vehicle, (Bus, Motorbike, Car or Cycle) could have been travelling along there.
They decided to chance the turn too fast without looking, with the expected result.

No way was it Gaz's fault.
 

Marbler

New Member
I agree. The driver should be looking out for traffic moving along the bus lane even though the traffic in the right hand lane was static. The driver was responsible for checking the road was clear before driving over two lanes. Gaz was simply "minding his own" and riding in a single lane although we generally don't do that and will try to anticipate these things happening by slowing down being aware this can happen.
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Everyone is entitled to there opinion on whose fault it is. Lets not turn this into a slagging match like some of the other threads. :biggrin:
 

As Easy As Riding A Bike

Well-Known Member
Some people seem to be thinking that, because Gaz might have been able to avoid that accident if he had

a) been crawling along and/or
b) stopping and checking that some muppet isn't going to come ploughing into him every time there's a gap in traffic,

he is just as responsible as the driver.

Their logic is slightly faulty.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Hope you aren't feeling too bad and that you quickly recover ... wouldn't want your Christmas plans spoilt. Hope the bike is a quick fix too.
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
good, about time someone else had an accident on here

it's the one I dread, there's very little you can do to really avoid this one other than stay at home
 

Peter88

Veteran
Location
Failsworth
Sorry to hear about tha crash Gaz

Hope the bike ain't too badly damaged,

But most importantly I hope you are back up and riding soon.
 

campbellab

Senior Member
Location
Swindon
It definitely seems avoidable, until you read gaz's comment about the car infront just moving off and rewatch it. The driver attacked the gap at speed with a big white van blocking his view..!
 
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