Genesis 2016 bikes

Discussion in 'Bikes and Buying Advice - What Bike?' started by totem, 2 Sep 2016.

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  1. totem

    totem Total Newb, but eager to learn

    Location:
    London
    Hi there, stuck between either the CdF 20 2016 (£800) Equilibrium disc 10 2016 (£800) and Equilibrium Decade 2016 (£700). Main sticking point is price vs brake type vs tyre size using mudguards. Questions below:

    1. Would there be any difference between running 25c or 28c tyres. On the Equilibrium disc 10 and decade-(max is 25c w/ mudguards, from genesis) CdF larger, for use with full mudguards on London roads for commuting?

    2. Further to the above, would I see a difference between rim brakes (those on the decade) or discs like TRP spyres, again London road commute - thinking of wet weather as well?

    3. For those with latest CdF especially, how is the steel fork on road riding?

    4. How long lasting are the steel frames and paintwork compared to aluminium?

    Thanks. Am going to pop into London Bicycle Workshop to look at them in the flesh and get a better judgement.
     
  2. OP
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    totem

    totem Total Newb, but eager to learn

    Location:
    London
    Not yet, going to see them either today or tomorrow.

    Only possible issue with the equilibrium is the ability to run max 25c tyres with mudguards.
     
  3. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    For my money Equilibrium disc every time. (I have an 853 and it's only flaw is that it doesn't have disc brakes)
     
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  4. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    Where is that stated? I run mine with guards and 28c's.
     
  5. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    [QUOTE 4446903, member: 45"]Why would you want to go bigger than 25s?[/QUOTE]
    Why would you want to go smaller than 28s? ;)
     
  6. OP
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    totem

    totem Total Newb, but eager to learn

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    I asked Genesis by email, that is what they told me.
     
  7. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    Interesting. They told me "try it. Depends on the tyre. Depends on the mudguards."
     
  8. OP
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    totem

    totem Total Newb, but eager to learn

    Location:
    London
    Any real-world difference bewteen 25c and 28c tyres, because I would want to run it mudguards year round. Also the price of both the CdF and the Equillibrium disc 10 are £800 from what I've found.
     
  9. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    I'd take a dim view of a manufacturer who ships a bike with mudguard and rack eyelets and 28c's as standard, and who witters on about "generous tyre clearances and mudguard and rear rack eyelets" in their marketing blurb, who then claims you have to change the tyres to fit mudguards. A very dim view.
     
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  10. Dogtrousers

    Dogtrousers Kilometre nibbler

    I swapped 28s for 25s on my Spa Steel Audax, (because I got sick of the mudguards getting clogged up with mud, and having to let the tyres down to get the wheels off).

    I didn't notice any difference.
     
  11. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    I'm a big unit.

    I find can run 28c*, day-to-day, with larger air chamber, at lower pressures, for a more comfortable ride and not get snakebites/pinch flats.

    My mudguards, once on, stay on.

    *Conti Gatorskin Hardshells or Victoria Pave Open CG
     
  12. OP
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    totem

    totem Total Newb, but eager to learn

    Location:
    London
    Okay tyre question solved. Are your mudguards full sets, i.e. SKS or the like.

    Prices being the same - overall CdF or Equillibrium Disc 10?
     
  13. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    Look at 'em both. Let your heart decide.

    Unless you need the gravel bike go anywhereness of the CdeF the Equi has the better spec for the money. But I find the 2016 Equi Disc 10 paintjob a bit 'meh!'
     
  14. OP
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    totem

    totem Total Newb, but eager to learn

    Location:
    London
    [QUOTE 4446992, member: 45"]My Equilibrium came with full guards fitted. There are no rubbing issues. Not sure what they are without looking, possibly SKS Bluemels.[/QUOTE]
    Would that be the disc or on-disc version of the Equilibrium?
     
  15. vickster

    vickster Legendary Member

    Testride them, don't just look at them :smile:

    For me, equilibrium, but I'm biased. Can't help on the tyres, I've only had 25s and now 23s on mine with SKS chromoplastic mudguards (I do find toe overlap an issue, riding a fairly small frame for my height and foot size)
     
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