God Almighty, Just How Stupid Can People Be?

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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Just avoid the area when there are protests.

I 'met' a bully XL at weekend - friendly and I got licked, but my god was it strong. The owner was a strong gym type, but the dog was pulling him - he had a big harness on the dog, and it needed both hands on the lead. There was no way you'd be able to stop one, they are huge.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I'm a big strong lad and have to hang on tight with a boisterous 33kg labrador. It takes some effort.

I can't Imagine anyone short of Eddie Hall or the like having a hope of hanging on to one of these XL dogs that wanted to go at it.

BTW, Accy would like Eddie Hall. He's a snappy dresser.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Exactly what a terrier was bred for. I'd probably have a Border Terrier were I to ever purchase a dog.

Youtube at the minute thinks I want to see ratting (and general pest destruction) for some reason. They are certainly very efficient at dispatching and don't waste a second too long before onto the next victim.

Walking my sister's dog once, she dived into the undergrowth and came out looking rather embarrassed with a mouse. "I don't normally bother with such trivial game".
 

oldwheels

Legendary Member
Location
Isle of Mull
The only dog we ever had albeit temporarily was a wire haired fox terrier. We moved to a house in the East Lothian countryside and the dog was sitting on the doorstep when the furniture van arrived having been left by the previous occupants.
We got on fine with it and never any aggression to us but it attacked everything and everybody else. The postman arrived and with new tenants thought wrongly that he was safe to enter the front gate . Bit him so he complained to the police who arrived by bike and got bitten as well. We were allowed to keep the dog as we were 2 miles from the nearest village.
I took it for a walk to a nearby farm and met a surgeon from Edinburgh with a bull terrier. His dog got it’s ear torn off before they got separated so he sat on a nearby log and pulled a needle and gut from behind his lapel and sewed the ear back on. He remarked that it was the first time he had ever had to repair his own dog as he carried the needle and gut to sew up other dogs.
When we moved on the dog was left behind for the next occupants of the house.
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
Wire haired terriers are notorious fighters. I remember my father saying he had a pair when he was younger and said you would sit there petting them and realise as you stroked them there was another bit of ear or something missing each time.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I'm a big strong lad and have to hang on tight with a boisterous 33kg labrador. It takes some effort.

I can't Imagine anyone short of Eddie Hall or the like having a hope of hanging on to one of these XL dogs that wanted to go at it.

BTW, Accy would like Eddie Hall. He's a snappy dresser.

Talking to a dog walker in the cemetery this aft', she (has a smallish poodle type) told me that her son has an XL Bully that weighs 9.5 stones. I'm only a stone heavier and easy to topple being fairly tall, not 'short and stocky'. I even have to lean back a little to keep my balance when my 1 stone mutt decides to run or walk fast. :unsure:
 
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Drago

Legendary Member
Aye, and a low CofG compared to me
 
I think we do dogs generally a massive disservice - all too often we expect them to be like children, but they just aren't wired like that.

The thing people don't realise about muzzles is that it's far worse for the owners to admit that their dogs need one than it is for the dogs to get used to wearing one.

If you train a dog to wear a muzzle, he thinks it's playtime. My old dog used to associate putting his muzzle on with going for an adventure! It saved his life. As an adolescent GSD with poor socialisation it allowed him to become less fearful and safe around people, and then he didn't need it. I knew I had won when I accidentally forgot to fasten his lead one day and found he was just walking alongside me when a Rottweiler came up to him.

He became the most beautiful, gentle dog and I still miss him ten years after he's gone.

My current dog has never bitten anyone, and he never would - I would never let him get in a position where he would do that, and he came to me as a puppy so it was easy to get the socialisation right. He's a 43kg Spanish Mastiff. He won't pull too much, and respects me enough not to if I tell him. Some dogs are probably beyond help - you can do a lot with a GSD, but terriers and other dogs are much harder to train to begin with. Anything is possible with the right combination of dog and owner, but it is definitely harder and there are far more dogs than capable owners.

A well trained dog reacts to aggression by looking at its owner. If you're worried, it is worried, and it tries to protect you. That's why I despair of people who pick up their dogs when another dog approaches them. That's terrifying if you're a dog. How do you run away? If your owner is obviously scared, surely it's up to you to protect them?
 

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
Going into our local shop the other night saw a young girl about 13 with one of these XL dogs. My gawd, they're huge, about 100% muscle and with a 'don't mess with me' look on its face. If it had gone for anyone, that girl would have had no chance of controlling it.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Going into our local shop the other night saw a young girl about 13 with one of these XL dogs. My gawd, they're huge, about 100% muscle and with a 'don't mess with me' look on its face. If it had gone for anyone, that girl would have had no chance of controlling it.

Like the woman I saw with one in the cemetery yesterday. She's about 5 foot 6 inches tall, probably about 8/9 stone in weight. The dog which walks in a prowling motion looks like it's as heavy if not heavier than her. Thankfully she always has it on a lead, which is more of a thick leather strap/belt that she holds with both hands. I often wonder if she lets the dog into her home or does she keep it in a compound or similar.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Sort of related, we met what seemed to be a formidable guard dog in a yard next to a pub. People ahead of use were putting their hands through the bars, which seemed rather bold. We commented "You're brave", and they replied they knew the dog and he was lovely. Emboldened we too played with the dog who was indeed lovely and dropped bis ball for us to throw over the fence for him. Naturally we felt obliged to go in the pub. His name's " Loki" and apparently he's a cross between a mastiff, Rotweiler and Alsatian, and very much looked the part. They let him in the pub later and he calmly went round saying hello to everyone. All the regulars were clearly friends with him, and apparently many of them regularly took him for walks. It does go to show that a large fierce looking beast looking every bit the fighting dog, especially given his an ancestry, can be as friendly and calm as a labrador if well treated and cared for, though I dare say a lot of it was innate good nature too. Didn't find out if they'd had him as a puppy, or if he was a rescue, the later quite likely given he had a few scars, but he'd evidently thrived in their care, and was one of the loveliest dogs I've ever met.
 
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captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
Watched an item on ITV brekkie show this morning, dog expert said that apparently the lineage of these mutts can be traced to one dog, so inbred it had the same grandparent four times over....:ohmy:. It figures.
 
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