Good Old Hampshire Constabulary

[oldroadman]

I just found this.
Comments:
A horn is to warn of presence, and should not be an admonishment, or to "assert right of way"
Why did the camera user clearly and deliberately ride into danger?
There was plenty of room and time to adjust to the situation.
A little patience would do no harm, no-one is perfect.
twice during the video I see riding hard up the nearside of cars - why? What does this achieve?
Overall, perhaps a review of attitude towards other road users is due before something serious happens.

Question:
Why do so many things happen to so few people, if the footage is anything to go by. The majority seem to get by OK and there is not an epidemic of rider fatalities. Considerate and considered use of shared space on the road is surely the correct way to go.

Finally:
What may be seen by ALL other road users - including bike riders - as "militants" are simply not helping anything. All they do is feed the ego - and make riding appear far more dangerous than it really is by almost revelling in getting into challenging situations then blaming someone else.
Guys, THIS DOES NOT HELP!

 

[Big Nick]

[QUOTE 3064132, member: 30090"]Can't believe people are having a go at the OP.

Some moron driver who gives two ****s about another road users pulls out, the cyclist quite rightly uses the horn to let the car driver know of them being there and slaps on the windshield. And people are having a go at him telling him to leave the camera at home?!

And then talking about defensive cycling and the HPT?!?! WTF. I would have carried that speed through there and in case any of you muppets who are wronging the cyclist care to note the OP did not have to deviate too much from their line and did not hit the car (apart from the slap.)

Dreadful bit of driving from the car driver, would they have pulled out if the cyclist were a car? Would they ****.

And braking from 25mph to a standstill in the wet does not require 'serious skill' you are travelling in a straight line FFS. Shift your body weight and squeeze the brakes - it ain't hard.[/QUOTE]

Take a chill pill mate

Most aren't 'blaming' the cyclist as clearly the car pulled out when it wasn't safe to do so but his (the OP) approach and actions afterwards are debatable which seems to be a view shared by the police

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 3064132, member: 30090"]And braking from 25mph to a standstill in the wet does not require 'serious skill' you are travelling in a straight line FFS. Shift your body weight and squeeze the brakes - it ain't hard.[/QUOTE]
LOL you missed out the distance, less than 10 meters to do all of that. Which is less than the stopping distance of a car doing the same speed in the dry. Just shifting your weight and yanking on the brake isn't going to stop you in that short distance.

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 3064320, member: 30090"]Where did I say yanking on the brakes? And please don't try and compare the braking dynamics of a car to a bike.[/QUOTE]
So the distance of 10 meters to stop a bicycle, with rim brakes, in the wet is easy?

 

[Big Nick]

[QUOTE 3064305, member: 30090"]I'm not your mate, and where have I said about blaming the cyclist?[/QUOTE]
Take a look again at the CC slogan
"a fun and friendly cycling online community"
Everyone's entitled to their opinion which is generally the idea of chat forums and they all aren't going to agree with you
And as for not being my mate, firstly in Yorkshire it's an expression and doesn't mean anything and secondly I'd be surprised if you were anyone's mate with such an aggressive outlook to others.........mate

 

[Nigeyy]

Poor old OP. I bet he never thought he'd start such a firestorm.

I wish he'd confined his video to just asking whether or not you should wear a helmet. Or if you should cycle on the pavement.

 

[Big Nick]

Keyboard warriors spouting their aggression bravely over the internet and using swear words their mummy/wife won't let them use in real life.......what's not to like ?!?

 

[Pale Rider]

I can't imagine doing 30mph on a bike, so I will pretend I'm also in a car.

Other car pulls out, I cover the brakes, possibly dab them to avoid getting too close.

Happens regularly - it's a tut-tut moment at worst.

 

[400bhp]

I can't imagine doing 30mph on a bike, so I will pretend I'm also in a car.

Other car pulls out, I cover the brakes, possibly dab them to avoid getting too close.

Happens regularly - it's a tut-tut moment at worst.

Now, can you imagine carrying on the way the OP did in a car.

Nope.

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 3064509, member: 30090"]Yes[/QUOTE]

 

[theclaud]

Now, can you imagine carrying on the way the OP did in a car.

Nope.

He wasn't in a car.

 

[400bhp]

 

[theclaud]

[QUOTE 3064254, member: 45"]You risk assess as a road user.[/QUOTE]
Yes... you assess risk all the time. The most important risk you need to assess is the risk your behaviour presents to others. You also tend to assess risk to yourself caused by the dangerous behaviour of others, of course, and most of us adjust our behaviour to compensate for the danger others place us in, but if we are a bit lax on that score it is not something for others to berate us with.

 

[theclaud]

The obvious appears to trouble you. Do you imagine that there is no difference between bicycles and cars?

 

[400bhp]

The obvious appears to trouble you. Do you imagine that there is no difference between bicycles and cars?

You do know what analogy means don't you.

Or is everything in black & white in cloud cuckoo land?