Got told off by a fellow cyclist (although he was in a car!)

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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
In my experience you'll get even more people complaining about overtaking on the right, explode in rage at you.

You need to remind them that they should never be using the horn in those circumstances.
 

tongskie01

Active Member
NP :thumbsup:

My normal route is virtually all left lane filtering (in a 'cycle path') and although occasionally I get blocked its generally ok. Like someone has already said overtaking 'properly' can be more dangerous, certainly if I tried that I'd get squashed as the traffic passes closer to each other than the curbs :ohmy:

if your overtake is dangerous, then its not proper overtake.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Well it doesn't. There are people bullied off the roads by such people. It's exactly the sort of behaviour which makes this country not conducive to cycling for a lot of people that don't cycle or are just starting out.

That and gets camera wearing campaigning its big boost.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Well certainly, then we'll be having more 'you were taking up the entire road' threads :biggrin:.

But the cyclist keeps the moral high ground. The quote from "Road House" "Be nice until it is time not to be nice" :biggrin:
 

wiggydiggy

Legendary Member
It completely depends on the situation whether it's safer to overtake on the outside or inside - neither one is always better than the other.
I generally prefer to go on the right, but there are plenty of times when I go on the left.

The main one is to never, never go on the left approaching a junction.

He may have had a valid point, but the way he made was bang out of order.

Unfortunately on my commute I pass 20 or more side streets so its impractical and would probably be more dangerous if I was weaving to the left and right of cars all the way along. I cant stay on the right all the way due to traffic islands and variable traffic speeds. I find as long as I keep a sharp eye on those on my right for potential left hooks and make sure I make eye contact with those waiting to pull out, I'm ok.
 
You should have suggested he read Cyclecraft which has a section on filtering on the left. The general advice is its fine if there is room and traffic is stopped or moving slowly and you keep your speed down IIRC. Otherwise you should pass on the right. Of course as pointed out above, if it was that wrong the councils would not be painting cycle lanes in that position or feeder lanes into ASLs. From what you said about his behaviour though I suspect his "I'm a cyclist" was like the old "some of my friends are black" line people used to use to justify their racism.
 
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the reluctant cyclist

Über Member
Location
Birmingham
It completely depends on the situation whether it's safer to overtake on the outside or inside - neither one is always better than the other.
I generally prefer to go on the right, but there are plenty of times when I go on the left.

The main one is to never, never go on the left approaching a junction.

He may have had a valid point, but the way he made was bang out of order.


Yes, I expect this was his problem as it was at a junction! I always think it depends on each individual circumstance though..

.. traffic moving slower than I am (and I am by no way fast!) - car on junction acknowledging they have seen me - car on my right already past the point of turning into junction...

.. to me it seemed safe!

I'm dead worried now I will see him on his bike and he will moan at me for calling him a "self-gratification artist" by offering him a cup of coffee - if you know what I mean!!!!!!
 

davefb

Guru
Yes, I expect this was his problem as it was at a junction! I always think it depends on each individual circumstance though..

.. traffic moving slower than I am (and I am by no way fast!) - car on junction acknowledging they have seen me - car on my right already past the point of turning into junction...

.. to me it seemed safe!

I'm dead worried now I will see him on his bike and he will moan at me for calling him a "self-gratification artist" by offering him a cup of coffee - if you know what I mean!!!!!!

tbh, the main area where I used to 'wonder about going down the right' , it frankly would have been worse going on the right than left, even taking into account junctions..

whilst you get saved from the person entering the left turn crossing across the traffic, when overtaking down the right, cars turning right from the junction can now 'get you' instead.

I mainly filter on the left because I got caught too often when the traffic sped up and nobody gave a gap to let me back ( gits...).... ( the ability to go faster would have helped of course ;) )

it also not only is more clear in the highway code about overtaking on the left not being illegal ( with obvious exceptions), but it also specifically tells drivers to watch out on both sides due to filtering cyclists or motorcyclists...
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
tbh, the main area where I used to 'wonder about going down the right' , it frankly would have been worse going on the right than left, even taking into account junctions..

whilst you get saved from the person entering the left turn crossing across the traffic, when overtaking down the right, cars turning right from the junction can now 'get you' instead.

I mainly filter on the left because I got caught too often when the traffic sped up and nobody gave a gap to let me back ( gits...).... ( the ability to go faster would have helped of course ;) )

it also not only is more clear in the highway code about overtaking on the left not being illegal ( with obvious exceptions), but it also specifically tells drivers to watch out on both sides due to filtering cyclists or motorcyclists...

Trouble is drivers think as drivers (I'm not saying that is the right way to think) and as such will not expect undertaking. Hold primary when approaching a junction and then clearly position the bike to the right or left to indicate which direction you are turning.
 
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