Great dozy ped

[Crankarm]

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...which you seem to have a problem with Arch for - when there is none.
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I was merely pointing out that her cycling was inconsiderate, gave a bad impression for cyclists as a group and next time suggested she ride more defensively even tap a few ting tings on her bell. Unfortunately she seems unable to do this as her handle bar set up is poor such that she cannot brake and use her bell at the same time.

I think you motives for escalating this against me, are, as you state, that Arch is your friend ....................... Forget the HC or prudent cycling, instead support your "friend" .

 

[Crankarm]

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Oh please! How was her cycling inconsiderate.

Notices Ped crossing the road

Slows down

Mentions to said ped that they should look where they are going.

How in what way is the above inconsiderate or gives a bad impression for cyclists?

Bearing in mind of course your previous posts concerning you using threatening behaviour towards almost any motorist who calls you a naughty name or passes you to close.
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You are out of order User3143. Kindly retract your statement.

 

[dondare]

We all know how pedestrians behave and how we are supposed to cope with them. We also know that although the roads should not be rivers of death the fact is that they can be.
The woman with the family took an unnecessary and foolish risk and Arch's cycling was as it should have been.

Now what is it that you are all arguing about?

 

[Arch]

We all know how pedestrians behave and how we are supposed to cope with them. We also know that although the roads should not be rivers of death the fact is that they can be.
The woman with the family took an unnecessary and foolish risk and Arch's cycling was as it should have been.

Now what is it that you are all arguing about?

I dunno. I posted an anecdote in an eye rolling sort of way, and suddenly I'm Pol Pot and Hitler rolled into one, with poor handlebars.

(My hands are small. The only place to put a bell is to the inboard side of my brake lever clamp. With small fingers, this means that when covering the brakes with my fingers, my thumb won't reach the pinger of the bell easily. Maybe I should have my thumb surgically lengthened. Of course, if she didn't hear my voice, I doubt she'd have heard my bell either).

Anyway, I'm just back from a ride to the pub for breakfast, down the bike path, where I rode at 25mph scattering toddlers and old ladies to all sides and ran over a dacshund, screaming "Get out of my way, you ******* *******."*


*May contain traces of lying.

 

[Norm]

(My hands are small. The only place to put a bell is to the inboard side of my brake lever clamp. With small fingers, this means that when covering the brakes with my fingers, my thumb won't reach the pinger of the bell easily. Maybe I should have my thumb surgically lengthened. Of course, if she didn't hear my voice, I doubt she'd have heard my bell either).

Holy smoke, Arch, I just asked where you put your bell FFS.

 

[Arch]

Holy smoke, Arch, I just asked where you put your bell FFS.

I know, I know, and I was trying to explain... You were being perfectly friendly and helpful...

I was reiterating for other people's benefit.

If I had very short reach levers, it might help, but replacing them is not high on my list. I could swap the ping bell for a brinnng brinng one, which might put the bell lever more naturally under my thumb I suppose.

Or I could carry on as I do, which is actually fine, 99.999% of the time.

 

[Norm]

I was reiterating for other people's benefit.

Ah, ok, just internerd paranoia creeping over me then.

Being serious (but just for a sec) I'd have thought it would be pretty easy to extend the pinger if you wanted to do so. Or just keep shouting.

Or I could carry on as I do, which is actually fine, 99.999% of the time.

Aye, as I said, I only have a bell on the MTB because that's the one which I'm on when sharing paths. If someone pulled that trick on me on the road, I wouldn't even have the bell as an option, as it's almost impossible to put one within reach on drop bars anyway. They can't be mounted near the drops or the hoods and the tops on my road bikes are over-sized and already full of stuff (cross levers, lights etc)

 

[Arch]

Aye, as I said, I only have a bell on the MTB because that's the one which I'm on when sharing paths. If someone pulled that trick on me on the road, I wouldn't even have the bell as an option, as it's almost impossible to put one within reach on drop bars anyway. They can't be mounted near the drops or the hoods and the tops on my road bikes are over-sized and already full of stuff (cross levers, lights etc)

If you have STI levers, there's the Mirrycle road bell.

http://www.mirrycle.com/road_mirror.php

They also do a little bar end fitting one. But for flat bars like mine, neither of those are any benefit.

Thinking about it, I've decided I'll have to go back to a pinger on my trike - the rotary sort rattle too much. Next time I have it out, I'll perhaps swap the pinger on the FCR for the rotary on the trike.

There's still one slight issue - testing my other hack up here in the flat, to get a really good purchase on the brake lever involves having the handy human opposable thumb round the bar. To operate the bell involves bringing the thumb up, lessening the ability to grip the bar. That can't be an issue for only me.... Overall, brakes take precedence over bells. I know when I'm driving, that reacting and hitting the brakes is more important than finding and hitting the horn - and that doesn't even involve the same limb.

 

[Ben M]

You know you have lost the argument as you have already resorted to personal insults.

The reason that she got frustrated and "resorted to personal insults" is because having a discussion with you is like banging one's head against a brick wall.

 

[Norm]

Cheers, Arch, some good ideas there.

 

[hackbike 666]

If you have STI levers, there's the Mirrycle road bell.

http://www.mirrycle....road_mirror.php

They also do a little bar end fitting one. But for flat bars like mine, neither of those are any benefit.

Thinking about it, I've decided I'll have to go back to a pinger on my trike - the rotary sort rattle too much. Next time I have it out, I'll perhaps swap the pinger on the FCR for the rotary on the trike.

There's still one slight issue - testing my other hack up here in the flat, to get a really good purchase on the brake lever involves having the handy human opposable thumb round the bar. To operate the bell involves bringing the thumb up, lessening the ability to grip the bar. That can't be an issue for only me.... Overall, brakes take precedence over bells. I know when I'm driving, that reacting and hitting the brakes is more important than finding and hitting the horn - and that doesn't even involve the same limb.

.....and I have a car horn on my bike for close encounters....

 

[potsy]

Cheers, Arch, some good ideas there.

What do you need a bell for norm? Isn't your puffing and panting enough to alert most peds to your presence?

Like you said Arch,99.99% isn't too bad is it? You're always going to get one that walks out without looking,think you'd be best ignoring Crankarm tbh seems to have a major downer on you.

 

[Arch]

The reason that she got frustrated and "resorted to personal insults" is because having a discussion with you is like banging one's head against a brick wall.

Slight point of order, but I think it was Lee accused of insult...

I prefer the analogy of it's like trying to eat jelly with chopsticks. Although I actually managed that once...

I have no idea why either, but it impressed the people I was with.

 

[hackbike 666]

What do you need a bell for norm? Isn't your puffing and panting enough to alert most peds to your presence?
Like you said Arch,99.99% isn't too bad is it? You're always going to get one that walks out without looking,think you'd be best ignoring Crankarm tbh seems to have a major downer on you.

Has someone done a survey then?

 

[Arch]

Has someone done a survey then?

Oh yes, I measure every moment of all my rides...