Origamist
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I've found the TfL list, but there's a restriction on the size of attachments I can upload here.
Can anyone suggest a way around this?
What TFL report have you got? I'd be surprised if I have not posted a link!
I've found the TfL list, but there's a restriction on the size of attachments I can upload here.
Can anyone suggest a way around this?
Pedal Cyclist Fatalities - January 1999 - October 2006 (provisional)
Can't find a link on the web.
Origamist said:Ban cyclists and get more congestion, more pollution, a greater strain on the NHS due to increased public health problems etc etc etc.
Thanks for that post.
Now, who do we blame for not having the rail network we used to have?
Although it's a bit more complicated than that. Rail haulage was practically designed to fail, in much the same way that the Royal Mail is now.dondare said:Marples & Beeching.
Bristol have run a scheme to reduce the number of HGVs in the city centre. I've got links to the positives (congestrion and CO2 down), but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a balanced review of the scheme....
User3143 said:If anyone can come up with a more cost effective way of transporting goods that's both social and environmentally friendly - then I'm all ears.
If we accept that big trucks aren't essential in city centres, which you seem to have by your diversionary questioning, then the discussion starts about priorities and compromise.
There is plenty that can be done to reduce the risk that HGVs present, and the first step is to accept that things don't have to be the way they are. Because the current behaviour is not essential.
BADGER.BRAD said:Back to the original argument about women cyclists I would agree that they as a general rule fail to command their road space and are much more timid on our roads and by not doing so encourage others to try and squeeze past we all know that other road users need to know what you are going to do by your positioning signaling and so forth. I wonder how many of these women who have been killed had a driving license giving them understanding of how the roads work.
2Loose said:TheClaud, (OT) have a read about 'Index of Empathy for Children and Adolescents' and also 'Interpersonal Reactivity Index', both show girls getting generally higher scores than boys unless there is some autistic aspect in the subject.
Mind you, it will probably be as valid as Freud's mother fixation within the next decade, much like a lot of established psychology.
I also dispute the strength bit, being a bit of a 10 stone weakling myself...
theclaud said:I don't really see why those indices wouldn't fall foul of the inherent problems I mentioned earlier. It could just as well indicate that different qualities and abilities are valued/encouraged/punished differently in boys and girls, and have nothing whatever to do with capability. I teach adult women (complete beginners) to cycle. Actually, I teach adults of both sexes, but in practice they are almost all female. It's quite clear from talking to them that their main reason for not cycling, or for cycling very nervously, is that when they were children it was one of the many things that was Not Really For Girls. They have internalized this belief to a greater or lesser extent. Women that have managed not to internalize it seem to me to cycle in exactly the same way as men. Other things that girls tend to have been criticized for include assertiveness, self-confidence, risk-taking, and of course the belief that they are entitled to be treated as equals. All of which are part of the mix needed to survive on, never mind enjoy, the roads.
Wheeledweenie said:Al of this resonates with me. I've been told several times that I'm an unusually confident female cyclist. It's always been a nagging suspicion that it's because I'm one of three girls and my dad never subscribed to the 'not for girls' rhetoric. I played rugby, was an air cadet and, as a cyclist, I don't see myself as different to the boys. The women I've encouraged or spoken to about cycling don't seem to have this innate sense of entitlement to cycle on the road. I don't think I'm better than anyone, I just know I'm allowed to so I do.