Guy in Mercedes on the phone

[Rob3rt]

Do you need to be fluent in English to be a PCSO? If so, you are out of luck in England too.

 

[coffeejo]

(1) This isn't the first time you've come out with some pretty shocking stuff about the Welsh.
(2) You're talking rubbish:

I want to join North Wales Police but I don’t speak Welsh. Does this cause a problem?
The ability to speak Welsh is recognised as a skill in North Wales Police, alongside other policing skills. The Force has produced a Welsh Language Competency Framework which is used to assess Welsh language competency levels. Through a series of 'can do' statements it allows us to identify the ability and willingness of the employee to use language skills in work.

Briefly, level 2 spoken Welsh skills means that you have an ability to understand and use simple everyday spoken Welsh phrases. These include meeting and greeting; giving and receiving personal details; basic patterns about work and asking someone to do something. The NWP level 2 Welsh test focuses only on these predictable phrases in daily use. To support you in this process the force has provided a self-teach learning package, available in the Welsh Language section of this website.

There is no requirement to be able to write in Welsh.

Further support will be provided to applicants and recruits during probationer training to attain Level 3, which is a requirement for confirmation in post.

http://www.north-wales.police.uk/recruitment/police_constable/frequently_asked_questions.aspx

However, I continue to urge you to refrain from seeking employment in the police until you have a more tolerant attitude. And if you don't understand why that is important ...

 

[threebikesmcginty]

I Have been to the Brecon Beacons a few times. It's always been very wet and and I have been very p***** off there. Only go because they pay me.

Bit harsh, beautiful part of the planet, in fact, apart from Mat_T and Asda in Merthyr Tydfil there's not much wrong with the place.

 

[Rickshaw Phil]

I meant it with regards to the language. Let me clarify:

It is a shame that Wales has kept it ethnicity, because the Welsh language it part of it. As a non-fluent speaker and TBH I cannot speak a word of it apart from Hello and Goodbye, I find it very annoying when everything is in bilingual and it also prevents you from having the same opportunities as a welsh speaker (jobs etc).

I meant that in Wales, you have to be fluent to become a PCSO. So therefore I want to move to England to become a PCSO there which I would have a better chance of getting.

I'm sorry Matthew but it doesn't sound any better put that way.

I have to say I'm shocked to read such a comment. I didn't think you were like that.

 

[Boris Bajic]

I Have been to the Brecon Beacons a few times. It's always been very wet and and I have been very p***** off there. Only go because they pay me.

They used to run a charity MTB enduro over those hills, called The Beast. It is a huge giggle if your idea of fun is feeling as if you're losing a fight against four much bigger, slightly psychopathic martial-arts experts for six hours.

LIke a woman considering pregnancy for the second time, I used to forget very conveniently the pain of the previous ride and fill in the entry form with gay abandon. Happily, age has weakened me sufficiently to think it silly to ride over those hills now...

 

[Matthew_T]

I'm sorry Matthew but it doesn't sound any better put that way.

I have to say I'm shocked to read such a comment. I didn't think you were like that.

I meant that it causes problems when it comes to the language. I didnt mean any offence by it and I probably have worded it wrong.

For someone who doesnt speak Welsh, it prevents them from the same opportunities as someone who does. In most jobs in Wales, it is a requirement to speak some welsh.

TBH the job that I am in at the moment didnt ask me anything about welsh speaking even though we regularly have welsh speaking customers in. Even though welsh is the first language for most welsh people, everyone tends to automatically go to English. I dont know why that is but I have never seen a welsh customer ask a member of staff in any shop a question in welsh. It seems very odd even though they might be fluent in welsh. English just seems to be the automatic language of choice for most.

 

[Mugshot]

I meant that it causes problems when it comes to the language. I didnt mean any offence by it and I probably have worded it wrong.

For someone who doesnt speak Welsh, it prevents them from the same opportunities as someone who does. In most jobs in Wales, it is a requirement to speak some welsh.

TBH the job that I am in at the moment didnt ask me anything about welsh speaking even though we regularly have welsh speaking customers in. Even though welsh is the first language for most welsh people, everyone tends to automatically go to English. I dont know why that is but I have never seen a welsh customer ask a member of staff in any shop a question in welsh. It seems very odd even though they might be fluent in welsh. English just seems to be the automatic language of choice for most.

I havent said anything to you since the last time you decided to start spouting such drivel, but I have to respond to this and say that you know nothing and you really should try to learn a little before you start yapping, I'm also trying very hard to stay polite.

 

[Gary E]

Think there's an expression for this, something about holes and digging

 

[fossyant]

North Wales is full of Scoucers and Mancs (being one myself) and you don't have to venture far from the resorts and tourist areas to find folk mainly speaking Welsh, so why shouldn't jobs insist on Welsh as well as English. There is nothing to stop you learning it.

 

[Rickshaw Phil]

I meant that it causes problems when it comes to the language. I didnt mean any offence by it and I probably have worded it wrong.

For someone who doesnt speak Welsh, it prevents them from the same opportunities as someone who does. In most jobs in Wales, it is a requirement to speak some welsh.

TBH the job that I am in at the moment didnt ask me anything about welsh speaking even though we regularly have welsh speaking customers in. Even though welsh is the first language for most welsh people, everyone tends to automatically go to English. I dont know why that is but I have never seen a welsh customer ask a member of staff in any shop a question in welsh. It seems very odd even though they might be fluent in welsh. English just seems to be the automatic language of choice for most.

How to put this delicately?:

Yes, it was badly worded. It comes across as bigoted against the people of the land you live in. This is never a good thing.

You live in Wales and have been educated in Wales I believe. As many important jobs require the post-holder to speak the language, lack of ability in Cymraeg should not really be coming as a surprise obstacle at this point. So, why have you not taken a course to learn Welsh?

 

[vernon]

I think that you'll also have to stop being such a tit.

Doesn't he qualify to be a nobber?

 

[Arch]

It's not fair you know, I want to be a doctor, but they insist on me learning medical stuff first.

Learn Welsh, Matt, or stop moaning about not being able to speak Welsh.

 

[Noodley]

Doesn't he qualify to be a nobber?

He is way beyond nobbery - tittery is a few steps up the ladder

 

[Lance Jack]

Bit harsh, beautiful part of the planet, in fact, apart from Mat_T and Asda in Merthyr Tydfil there's not much wrong with the place.

It is beautiful but when your working you tend to miss it, it just goes past in a blink of an eye but every so often you can't help but admire the views.

 

[Gary E]

[QUOTE 2467108, member: 1314"]Pam na wnewch chi ddysgu Cymraeg? Fel Sais Dydw i ddim eisiau copr Saesneg sydd heb unrhyw barch tuag at wahanol ddiwylliannau. Dydw i ddim eisiau mynd yn ôl i'r 1970au. Yn sicr nid yn y Met.[/quote]
Dude, your keyboard is messed up!

But I agree, he probably should learn a bit of Welsh and I also agree that Policemen in Wales should respect their countries heritage

(please tell me I got that right and that I haven't just alienated most of the left side of Great Britain)