Has anyone tried running?

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wakemalcolm

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I do both, but 4 and a half hours on the bike sounds much more appealing.
 

Milzy

Legendary Member
About 2 hours. When I was doing triathlons 11 miles 75 minutes. 4hrs 30 minutes 80 miles. I could run 11 miles 3 times a week but despite being a cyclist riding 80 miles 3 times aweek would have been beyond me.

I get what you’re saying but it seems disappointing a 90ish min run which is hard only saves half hour. There’s so much more body and muscles being used.
And when time crunched a good 5k blast must be worth an hour zone 2 riding.
 

Webbo2

Veteran
I get what you’re saying but it seems disappointing a 90ish min run which is hard only saves half hour. There’s so much more body and muscles being used.
And when time crunched a good 5k blast must be worth an hour zone 2 riding.

A 5k blast and an hour zone 2 are completely different things. One will be hard and the other steady.
A 2 hour hilly ride will use a lot more muscles than a 90 minute steady run.
 

ivegotabike

Active Member
How does it look if you compare HR and duration?

Take the 5k blast run versus 1 hour Zone 2 cycling.

What average and peak HR would you see in that run? And in the cycling?

A fairer comparison in the time crunched situation would be to compare the same duration at the same HR across the two disciplines.

How would a cycling session at the same HR / duration as the 5k blast run feel?

It certainly would not feel the same as a 1 hour Z2 pedal!
 

Milzy

Legendary Member
How does it look if you compare HR and duration?

Take the 5k blast run versus 1 hour Zone 2 cycling.

What average and peak HR would you see in that run? And in the cycling?

A fairer comparison in the time crunched situation would be to compare the same duration at the same HR across the two disciplines.

How would a cycling session at the same HR / duration as the 5k blast run feel?

It certainly would not feel the same as a 1 hour Z2 pedal!

These are brilliant questions and I’ve not seen any YouTube specifically related to this. Should be a Huberman or GCN video.
 

Milzy

Legendary Member
AI on google reckons 1 mile running equals 3 miles cycling. So around 33 miles of cycling which probably equates to 2 hours or just over depending on your ability.

So I do 66 mile ride and feel great afterwards. If you ride a 100 without too much pace and hills you can feel fairly ok afterwards. Run a 26.2 marathon distance and if you take it very steady you’ll still feel very beat up.
I would say the AI is roughly right over shorter distance but the more you run the more hammered your body will be.
I’ve rode 200 miles and needed food and sleep but my joints and muscles were not shredded to bits.
 

ivegotabike

Active Member
So I do 66 mile ride and feel great afterwards. If you ride a 100 without too much pace and hills you can feel fairly ok afterwards. Run a 26.2 marathon distance and if you take it very steady you’ll still feel very beat up.
I would say the AI is roughly right over shorter distance but the more you run the more hammered your body will be.
I’ve rode 200 miles and needed food and sleep but my joints and muscles were not shredded to bits.

Your experience might not be the same as someone who does a lot of running, but not much cycling.

I wonder if someone who runs sub 3h marathons would feel very beat up if they jogged one in, say, 8h?

I've seen the fast finishers at local marathons (sub 2h20) and they didn't look any more beat up than Duggleby did when he set the 100 comp record.

Here are the good folks at Cade media talking about it


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GAguNIkg6h0
 

Milzy

Legendary Member
An elite runner will still feel 8 hours walking pace.
My Garmin says recovery is more for shorter runs than my longer rides. It makes sense if you put effort into running.
 

bulldoze

Active Member
Much easier mentally to get a hard workout running as well. Start out at a set pace and you do not have to concentrate much on keeping that pace and effort level - it is kind of built in to an extent.

With cycling you really have to stay focused if you want to do the same. Wheels that roll and gears that change effort level mean you have options on a bike that the runner does not.
 

ivegotabike

Active Member
Much easier mentally to get a hard workout running as well. Start out at a set pace and you do not have to concentrate much on keeping that pace and effort level - it is kind of built in to an extent.

With cycling you really have to stay focused if you want to do the same. Wheels that roll and gears that change effort level mean you have options on a bike that the runner does not.

I say that depends on the level of experience of the runner / cyclist, helped somewhat by the live information available to them.
 
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