He touched my car

[simon.r]

@screenman - My comment about the Prius paint being 'soft' (by which I mean susceptible to scratching) is based solely on my experience of owning one for 3 years (from 2007). I've been in the fortunate position of having been 'given' a new car every 3 years or so for the last 25 years. I've looked after them all equally well, but not obsessively - I clean them every month or two and try to avoid hitting things in them

After 3 years the Prius was noticeably scratched where it had brushed against vegetation (pulling to one side on very narrow roads) and had scratches on the bonnet where I had dragged an air-line across it. I appreciate that neither of these would be considered good practice, but I've done similar or worse to loads of other cars, including a different Toyota, and not scratched them. I'm sure a professional could have polished out the scratches - they were only superficial - but they were definitely there.

 

[green1]

Green! I dispute the fact about Jap laquer, what proof can you supply me with. By the way I have been working with the stuff on various Jap cars all day.

The fact I own or have owned 4 Jap cars in the last 5 years, all with paint far softer than other cars I have owned in the 13 years I've been driving.

 

[green1]

Must admit I was confused by theclaud reply. Maybe he will come back and enlighten us.

Still waiting for Green1 to reply to a question I asked earlier, why do people not back up their post when somebody questions it.

Because I was away for the weekend.

 

[Boris Bajic]

Boris is peddling a fantasy. Anyone who thinks driving (that's actual driving that people do every day rather the stuff pictured in car ads) relaxes people should have a glass of prosecco with us atop Ditchling Beacon and study the faces of the drivers as they pass.

Edit: And as for your last point, maybe they simply have other things to do...

I'm off for a ride into the Malvern Hills very shortly. It is cold, bracing and slightly slippery underfoot. Wet leaves everywhere. I'm looking forward to it. I expect it to be relaxing and pleasurable, if slightly breathless in parts and terrifying in others. No fantasy there.

Last night I took some of my family plus boyfriends and similar to the cinema. We drove. It was a lovely drive, there and back. No fanntasy there.

Earlier I took elder boy to a 5-a-side match. We collected team-mates on the way. Lovely drive both ways.

On Thursday I took him to his Turbo session at the local club and we picked up littl'un from his band practice on the way home.

All lovely drives in good company on smooth, largely empty tarmac. No fantasy.

Some drives are dull, some frustrating; like some bicycle rides. Broadly, driving and cycling are fun, relaxing and enjoyable. Of course some drives are not relaxing. Some wine is corked, but that doesn't mean it's fantasy to promote the taking pleasure from a glass of wine. Some eggs are rotten, but I still quite like an egg.

If this really is a fantasy I'm peddling, I'd have been glad when still young enough to enjoy them if one or two of my more teenage fantasies had more easily become a commonplace part of everyday life.

I do not drive a Maserati (never have) and do not imagine that every trip to the shops is a blast across some Alpine pass. No fantasy being peddled here. It's just a car. I'm just a slightly overweight middle-aged father who likes to drive and likes to ride a bicycle. I've done both for as long as I've been able - indeed my ban for riding a motorcycle under-age suggests l started rather younger than I ought to have done.

Oddly (or not), most people I know enjoy driving. There are journeys better made on foot, by bicycle, by bus, by train or by tube... but where the motor car fits the bill it is sublime.

I applaud your continued determination to paint the enjoyment of motoring as fantasy. Those of us who drive and enjoy it will probably continue to do so whether you think we are dreaming or not.

 

[User482]

Boris is peddling a fantasy. Anyone who thinks driving (that's actual driving that people do every day rather the stuff pictured in car ads) relaxes people should have a glass of prosecco with us atop Ditchling Beacon and study the faces of the drivers as they pass.

Edit: And as for your last point, maybe they simply have other things to do...

To borrow a Danish phrase, they do rather look like a moose with the mumps. It must have been because they were delayed by ten seconds or so, from whatever terribly important business they needed to attend to.

I, fortified by an excellent single malt, was enjoying the sunrise.

 

[screenman]

Let me say there are very few paint suppliers to manufacturers in the world, and saying one laquer is softer than another is a myth. Try machine polishing it and you will find out. For sure there are differences in the amount of laquer applied, but hardness stays much the same.

 

[green1]

Paint hardness (or more properly clearcoat hardness in the case of most modern paint systems) can be readily divided into three categories; soft, intermediate and hard. Soft paint is usually found on Japanese cars, some Italian cars.
The paint on my current car is ~65-70 microns on average. So not only is it soft, it's also thin.

 

[screenman]

I would appreciatethe source of that information please, as it goes against what we in the trade find.

 

[green1]

I would appreciatethe source of that information please, as it goes against what we in the trade find.

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/what-polish-should-i-use.html

 

[screenman]

I was hoping for something a bit more technical and not by someone selling polish. Either way Jap car laquer is very hard and is certainly not noticeable different from anything else.

Now shall we start talking about Nissans self repairing laquer?

I am not trying to sell anything, just talking from day to day experience.

 

[400bhp]

An internet fight over paint hardness.

 

[green1]

I was hoping for something a bit more technical and not by someone selling polish. Either way Jap car laquer is very hard and is certainly not noticeable different from anything else.

Now shall we start talking about Nissans self repairing laquer?

I am not trying to sell anything, just talking from day to day experience.

Yeah they just sell polish, that's why they have are 3 month waiting list for details (which are superb).

Not noticeable? you better go tell every owner of a Jap car then because we all seem to notice it.

Yeah can talk about what ever you like, it's not my area of expertise, I'm only relaying my experience and what I've been told by professionals in that field. If you want to talk about mechanical design then fire away.

 

[green1]

An internet fight over paint hardness.

Almost as funny as the internet fight with people in SW2 and Cambridge saying that Aberdeen doesn't need a bypass...

 

[screenman]

3 month wait to a car detailed, now that is one motor you would want to lean on.

See anything common between Mazda and Ford?

 

[Boris Bajic]

Almost as funny as the internet fight with people in SW2 and Cambridge saying that Aberdeen doesn't need a bypass...

It doesn't!

Where is Aberdeen?

Where is Cambridge....?

More cake, anyone?