Helmet Debate

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Francesca

Well-Known Member
1701943 said:
Semantics aside, your message was clear enough. If you don't want people to have a go at you over it don't presume to tell people, many of whom know a fair bit about the subject, what they should or shouldn't do. Fair?
Get off your high horse please for Gods sake!! No one here (EXCEPT YOU) is so called "having a go" at me, and yes I agree , there are many people on here who know a damn site more than me AND YOU for that matter about helmets and safety, so please dont get bloody arsey on here with me, when I as much as anybody else are entitled to my opinion on any subject!!!!!!
FAIR??????
 

Francesca

Well-Known Member
Adrian...stuff like what? get a grip FFS....
and no I dont wear a helmet in a car, or walking down the road for that matter....mmmmm.yet another catty comment here.BUT good news - you can see me wearing my helmet soon on the Mountain Biking part of the forum as iam gonna load some great pics of me in my super helmet, which yes I look a complete idiot...but you know what? I dont give a toss what you or anybody thinks. Thankyou for being very polite and making me as a newcomer here feel quite welcome.
 

Madcyril

Active Member
Location
North Essex
Ha ha this is brilliant. You're more qualified than a surgeon who is actually faced with these things everyday. You're actually claiming that your naked skull will be better off hitting concrete than if it is protected. Stats or no stats, it's common sense. Like i said initially it's your choice i couldn't care less, just don't belittle those who do with juvenile arguments and intentionally going 'off topic' with immature random warblings.

take care
 

Maz

Guru
Her choice, her name.....

She had been called "Daki" by her family and friends for as long as she remembered and did not respond to anything else.
Fair enough. It must've sounded very strange calling her name.
I had a (male) friend whose name was Emma. I cracked up every time I had to say his name.
 

Francesca

Well-Known Member
1702047 said:
Get a grip on what FFS? You face similar head injury risks travelling in a car, or walking on a pavement as you do riding a bike, yet you don't see any need to wear a helmet doing either of those but you are prepared to preach:

"You should wear a helmet in any kind of activity were your head may suffer an impact...it could save your life...simple.
No ifs and buts, if you look like a complete tosser - who gives dam?? safety is paramount..no excuses."

Why the inconsistency?
Oi!!iam NOT bloody preaching!!okay!! if you dont want to wear one DONT!!but dont be so bloody rude and arrogant with me acting like a dick on the forum...enough said.
 
Alistair Jenkins, a consultant neuro-surgeon at Newcastle General Hospital, is a club cyclist and rides to work every day. He's in favour of helmets because he sees the results of accidents where people haven't been wearing them.

"I have to pick up the pieces when people have accidents, often literally. I see the results of both wearing and not wearing helmets. I have looked after cyclists who have been involved in accidents who have died, been severely disabled and some who have made a good recovery. I have never looked after a cyclist who was wearing a helmet who later died or was disabled.

Unless he's lying, there's no argument.

1. This is an anecdote and not evidence, whilst stating that he is in fact "lying" would be strong.
However this level of selective quotation could be contrued as such.

2. Talkng this selective quote at face value ...the fact that a neurologist has never looked after a cyclist who has died or suffered a disability certainly flies in the face of any cohort study of head injuries. Cyclists with helmets do suffer head injuries, they do (unfortunately) die and suffer disability.

Even Rivara and Thompson only claimed 85% reduction in head injuries. It would be interestintg to see the published evience of 100% reduction in head injuries claimed by this individual!

BHIT the most avid pro-helmet campaigners also do not claim 100% effectiveness

If we look at the full quotation there is a massive revelation!

"However, I don't want to give the impression that I operate on lots of injured cyclists all the time. I see far more pedestrians and motorists. "When a motorist has an accident they are often in a pretty bad way".

Surely the logic would state that if he is seeing far more pedestrians and motorists this would imply that far greater benefit would be achieved if helmets were worn in these groups?



3. However let us (just for the minute) accept this paragon of medical experience as being accurate in his assessment.

Sharon Thornhill (Department of Neurosurgery, University of Glasgow, Southern General NHS Trust) states that:

The most common causes of injury were falls (43%) or assaults (34%); alcohol was often involved (61%)

So it appears that there is no argument against helmets for drinkers or the general public who may suffer a fall?

When Malcolm Wardlaw states that:

Of at least 3.5 million regular cyclists in Britain, only about 10 a year are killed in rider only accidents. This compares with about 350 people younger than 75 killed each year falling down steps or tripping

So there is no argument against wearing a helmet when using stairs?

Equally when Wardlaw points out that:

Six times as many pedestrians as cyclists are killed by motor traffic, yet travel surveys show annual mileage walked is only five times that cycled; a mile of walking must be more “dangerous” than a mile of cycling.

There can be no argument against pedestrian helmets?
 

threebikesmcginty

Corn Fed Hick...
Location
...on the slake
Can we post the melon helmet pictures yet?
 

Madcyril

Active Member
Location
North Essex
so on the basis that you are just as likely to suffer a head injury walking/driving/drinking/cycling, why not reduce the chance of head injury by wearing a helmet for one of these activities. Like say, smoking/drinking to excess/taking drugs/bad diet. Cut one out and you're reducing your chance of a painful death. Simple.

madcyril is a song. no real meaning for using the name. not handing out advice. just an opinion
 
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