Helmet discussions: has anyone ever been persuaded otherwise?

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jonesy

Guru
Joe24 said:
Exactly, meaning that i am right. Its also play, and a form of transport, but is done at sport and most common of people is outdoor recreation, and just plain recreation sometimes.
I suppose it depends if its done intrinsicly or extrinsicly aswell.

What on Earth is this supposed to mean?

Lee described cycling as a sport. It can be a sport, but most cycling isn't for sport, nor is it recreational. Just as most driving isn't sport and most walking isn't recreational.
 

jonesy

Guru
Abitrary said:
show off - you think that makes you sexy

No, it just makes me right, and that is enough for me. ;)
 

Abitrary

New Member
User3143 said:
Why would I think about fractions? I meant whole numbers as in whole number systems.

but you hinted that binary isn't a whole number system. Binary is the same as decimal just with 2 numbers... watch this

1 + 1 = 10
 
jonesy said:
You are still defining cycling as a recreational activity. Not all cycling is recreation. Indeed, if you look at DfT National Travel Survey data, most isn't.

You're confusing me now, is this the same cack-handed DfT out the other thread you just condemned? ;)
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
jonesy said:
What on Earth is this supposed to mean?

You described cycling as a sport. It can be a sport, but most cycling isn't for sport, nor is it recreational. Just as most driving isn't sport and most walking isn't recreational.

Yes it is.
Outdoor recreation is someone going out on a bike for a pootle. They are doing it intrinsicly(have i got it the right way round for intrinsic and extrinsic) because they are doing it for their own enjoyment. They are out to enjoy the scenary, so it cant be classed as a sport, nor can it be classed as a form of transport, they arent going anywhere.
Outdoor recreation is also out having a nice walk.
Sport is lots of serious people going out and doing cycling at a good level, so it isnt just them going out for a nice pootle.
It as a mode of transport is them wanting to go somewhere.
Sport can be intrinsic(do it for themself) or extrinsic(do it for money) So many pros that are just riding for the money and not for the huge enjoyment are doing it extrinsicly.
It is all true.
 

bonj2

Guest
Abitrary said:
but you hinted that binary isn't a whole number system. Binary is the same as decimal just with 2 numbers... watch this

1 + 1 = 10

as is hex, so for example:
47834 + 1045 = BEEF!
 

Abitrary

New Member
bonj said:
as is hex, so for example:
47834 + 1045 = BEEF!

hehe... wait till you start looking at ipv6 IP addresses in hex.... there sure are some funny words to be had in there!
 

jonesy

Guru
Crackle said:
Your confusing me now, is this the same cack-handed DfT out the other thread you just condemned? ;)

Just because DfT do things that aren't evidence based, doesn't mean they don't have access to good information. NTS has its faults, but is generally accepted as a reasonably reliable source in the transport world.
 

bonj2

Guest
Abitrary said:
hehe... wait till you start looking at ipv6 IP addresses in hex.... there sure are some funny words to be had in there!

don't talk to me about ipv6 :laugh: we have a continual battle at work to banish it, but it keeps coming back like a bad black balloon - it really is a pain in the arse ;)
 

Abitrary

New Member
bonj said:
don't talk to me about ipv6 :laugh: we have a continual battle at work to banish it, but it keeps coming back like a bad black balloon - it really is a pain in the arse ;)

tell me about it... I've got a shoot load of code for manipulating ipv4 ranges which I need to change. It's the millenium bug for me, it is
 

jonesy

Guru
User3143 said:
I also said for the benefit of fitness, transport and well-being.

.... which is still rather muddled, but I think we are getting there. So will you now accept that an argument based on risk in sport doesn't necessarily apply to non-sporting uses of cycling?
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
jonesy said:
.... which is still rather muddled, but I think we are getting there. So will you now accept that an argument based on risk in sport doesn't necessarily apply to non-sporting uses of cycling?

I wouldnt do. You dont really know what your talking about.
 

jonesy

Guru
Joe24 said:
Yes it is.
Outdoor recreation is someone going out on a bike for a pootle. They are doing it intrinsicly(have i got it the right way round for intrinsic and extrinsic) because they are doing it for their own enjoyment. They are out to enjoy the scenary, so it cant be classed as a sport, nor can it be classed as a form of transport, they arent going anywhere.
Outdoor recreation is also out having a nice walk.
Sport is lots of serious people going out and doing cycling at a good level, so it isnt just them going out for a nice pootle.
It as a mode of transport is them wanting to go somewhere.
Sport can be intrinsic(do it for themself) or extrinsic(do it for money) So many pros that are just riding for the money and not for the huge enjoyment are doing it extrinsicly.
It is all true.

This is pretty unintelligible I'm afraid- it reminds me of a John Prescott interview.
 

jonesy

Guru
Joe24 said:
I wouldnt do. You dont really know what your talking about.

Oh, I can assure you I do.

You hadn't noticed that I was in fact replying to Lee, referring to his earlier post that you also appeared to disagree with, in as much as it is possible to decipher your meaning...
 
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