HGV drivers............

[Levo-Lon]

Think most lorry drivers get a bit miffed with 1 ton cars with a 2.0d doing 50 in the middle lane
ive said on here before, sitting on a coach travaling through Belgium, seeing into lorry cabs was a seriouse FECK Me eye opener ..they really do take the pi55..phones, books,papers, tablets meals..hot drinks..feet on dash..just stupid dangerouse behaviour with 40 ton behind you..

 

[Drago]

In the other hand, it's 50mph roadworks. It doesn't matter what lane they may be in, no trucker should be miffed when the vehicle in front is obeying a speed limit. If they can't handle such a simple psychological load then they should be driving a truck.

 

[gavintc]

In the other hand, it's 50mph roadworks. It doesn't matter what lane they may be in, no trucker should be miffed when the vehicle in front is obeying a speed limit. If they can't handle such a simple psychological load then they should be driving a truck.

Following your analogy further; you therefore don't see a problem with sitting in the outside lane at 70mph? That, after all is the speed limit.

Or may I remind you that the HC recommends moving into the inside lane unless overtaking.

 

[alicat]

If you could pull over to allow a HGV past, you were clearly middle lane hogging. Drive in inside lane, unless you are overtaking.

The same thing happened to me as the OP. I couldn't pull over because lane 1 was also full. When I eventually managed to get into a gap in lane 1, the lorry driver did the same to the next car. It was scary to watch how close the lorry was to the rear bumper of that car.

I memorised the number plate, time and location and reported the harassment and dangerous driving to Royal Mail, the livery of which the lorry bore.

 

[steve50]

If you could pull over to allow a HGV past, you were clearly middle lane hogging. Drive in inside lane, unless you are overtaking.

Whats your problem? you struggling to read or understand what I have written, i have clearly stated the offending hgv driver was bullying other motorists whilst driving along a section of motorway that is having repair work done. the speed limit is restricted to 50mph, the traffic was quite heavy, the option to move over into another lane was not immediately available.
The hgv driver had been persistently driving extremely close to the rear of several other vehicles whilst flashing his headlamps in an effort to force them to move out of his way, the hgv driver was driving in the middle lane wouldn't that mean HE was hogging the middle lane?
The reality is YOU were not there so how could YOU possibly know what was happening, I get the impression you are just trolling but I am not there with you so can't say for certain that I am correct.

 

[gavintc]

Whats your problem? you struggling to read or understand what I have written, i have clearly stated the offending hgv driver was bullying other motorists whilst driving along a section of motorway that is having repair work done. the speed limit is restricted to 50mph, the traffic was quite heavy, the option to move over into another lane was not immediately available.
The hgv driver had been persistently driving extremely close to the rear of several other vehicles whilst flashing his headlamps in an effort to force them to move out of his way, the hgv driver was driving in the middle lane wouldn't that mean HE was hogging middle lane?
The reality is YOU were not there so how could YOU possibly know what was happening, I get the impression you are just trolling but I am not there with you so can't say for certain that I am correct.

And having driven HGVs, there is an attitude amongst some motorists that trucks should remain in the inside lane and out of the way of cars. It is probable that your comments are correct, but I was just proposing an alternative option.

 

[steve50]

And having driven HGVs, there is an attitude amongst some motorists that trucks should remain in the inside lane and out of the way of cars. It is probable that your comments are correct, but I was just proposing an alternative option.

Nothing "probable" about it, i stated facts, nothing more nothing less but you sound typical of a great many hgv drivers who think they have a right of passage on the motorways and all motorists should automatically move out of your way when we see you approaching, we share the roads, good road manners and courtesy go a long way to making the roads a hell of a lot safer for all concerned!!

 

[classic33]

@steve50, you've two heavy haulage transport specialist companies near you. How do you find them when on the bike.

 

[steve50]

@steve50, you've two heavy haulage transport specialist companies near you. How do you find them when on the bike.

Not had any issues with them yet, i have found for the most part our local haulage / hgv drivers to be very courteous they have waved me through and i in turn have stopped and waved them through to which i have always had a nod or wave of thanks, as above, good road manners will be of benefit to us all.

 

[DRHysted]

I'm going to annoy a few people here, but well, here we go.

Your speedometers are wrong, this means that the speed on your dial is not the speed you are doing. Most manufacturers set them to over read i.e you'll be doing 45 whilst your speedo shows 50, now this is an example all my vehicles have been slightly different. My current car shows 77mph on the dash when I am travelling at 70mph, so I could overtake someone who would believe I'm speeding when I am not. I was told that the old Tachos were calibrated to show true speed as it was a legal record of their driving (I do not know if this is accurate, or the situation with the current digital tachos), as such I have always trusted the lorries to be closer to the correct speed than whatever car I'm driving (also losing their license has a greater impact than mine). So if going through an average speed limit area I tend to pick a lorry limited to 52 or 56 (they normally have a sticker on the back telling you which one they are) and follow it, this generally produces a much smoother driving style than following other traffic that doesn't seem happy unless it's accelerating or braking.

Regarding tailgaters. I have no time for them. Same as middle lane hoggers, the inside lane is for driving, all other lanes (unless marked otherwise) are for overtaking, once you have overtaken get back in the inside lane so faster traffic can overtake you.

 

[DRM]

I think the biggest cause of this problem is the the fact that car speedos over read, for example my current & previous vans were actually doing 45 mph, whilst the speedo was showing 50 mph, whilst a HGV's tacho has to be calibrated so that if it reads 80 kph (50 mph) than it is actually doing that speed, however if the road is busy than tailgating is down right dangerous and should be reported, there is no excuse for putting lives at risk.

 

[steve50]

[QUOTE="DRHysted, post: 4157286, member: 20552"

Regarding tailgaters. I have no time for them. Same as middle lane hoggers, the inside lane is for driving, all other lanes (unless marked otherwise) are for overtaking, once you have overtaken get back in the inside lane so faster traffic can overtake you.[/QUOTE]
That ^^^^^ is bullshot!! If I am driving at 70mph as indicated by my sat nav nothing should overtake me as I am driving at the legal speed limit therefore "faster traffic" is traffic that is speeding.
If you have ever been on a driver awareness course as i have you will (or should ) know that there is no such thing as an "overtaking lane" on the motorway nor is there a "slow lane" or a "fast lane". the designated speed on any lane on the motorway is 70mph, all three lanes are designed to be driven in at that speed. all three lanes can be used by motorists other than those restricted by size or weight etc, it is FACT that one can drive in ANY of those lanes at 70mph providing one is not causing an obstruction or otherwise causing other motorway traffic to be hindered or endangering other road users. The highway code does not state this but talk to any copper or go a driver awareness course and you will find out this is fact.

 

[DRHysted]

[QUOTE="DRHysted, post: 4157286, member: 20552"

Regarding tailgaters. I have no time for them. Same as middle lane hoggers, the inside lane is for driving, all other lanes (unless marked otherwise) are for overtaking, once you have overtaken get back in the inside lane so faster traffic can overtake you.

That ^^^^^ is bullshot!! If I am driving at 70mph as indicated by my sat nav nothing should overtake me as I am driving at the legal speed limit therefore "faster traffic" is traffic that is speeding.
If you have ever been on a driver awareness course as i have you will (or should ) know that there is no such thing as an "overtaking lane" on the motorway nor is there a "slow lane" or a "fast lane". the designated speed on any lane on the motorway is 70mph, all three lanes are designed to be driven in at that speed. all three lanes can be used by motorists other than those restricted by size or weight etc, it is FACT that one can drive in ANY of those lanes at 70mph providing one is not causing an obstruction or otherwise causing other motorway traffic to be hindered or endangering other road users. The highway code does not state this but talk to any copper or go a driver awareness course and you will find out this is fact.[/QUOTE]
Think I'll stick to following the Highway Code thanks, oh and the law it was sorted recently so the Police could prosecute people failing to use the overtaking lanes properly.

 

[steve50]

Can someone please enlighten me, what is a middle lane hogger?
If someone is driving down the middle lane at circa 55mph and causing general frustration among other drivers then yes I would call them middle lane hoggers, but, if someone is driving at 70mph in the middle lane are they then still a middle lane hogger?
Add to that the average "Mr angry" driving up behind the "middle lane hogger" and flashing his / her lights in anger because he / she wants to get past because mlh is blocking their progress, doesn't that make "mr Angry" as guilty of lane hogging as the person he is trying to get to move?

 

[steve50]

Think I'll stick to following the Highway Code thanks, oh and the law it was sorted recently so the Police could prosecute people failing to use the overtaking lanes properly.

The law was recently changed so police could prosecute middle lane hoggers, nothing to do with using the "overtaking lanes" properly.
http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/motori...-beware-youre-breaking-the-law-11363989000725