Hit by a motorbike last night

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caesar

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scouserinlondon said:
I spose we all must feed into TFL's consultation on bikes in cycle lanes. If this behaviour is the norm then we clearly can't all play nicely together so should be kept seperate.

Wasn't it bikes in bus lanes? I'm not too bothered about that but mandatory cycle lanes and ASLs just don't seem to be enforced.
 
caesar said:
Wasn't it bikes in bus lanes? I'm not too bothered about that but mandatory cycle lanes and ASLs just don't seem to be enforced.

This is because

A) Many don't understand the laws surrounding them
:biggrin: No biker (like cyclists) wants to be stuck alongside/inbetween 2 cars in lines of traffic when they move off around them.
 

Jake

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a) surely a picture of a little byclcle when your sitting on some jock rocket would make you think

:biggrin: true but unlike some of todays riders who think they have to be at the front, sometimes i am happy to sit in the middle of a row of traffic if its safer.

its hard to enforce and there is not much we can do, unless we point out to the bikers that they should not be in the box. But i dont think i could cope with that many thumps each day
 

eldudino

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A cheeky grab of his clutch would have given him a fright, or a well aimed toe-poke at his gear lever would cause him some inconvenience too.

I ride a motorbike but I give cyclists plenty of room (same in the car) it's all down to whether the individual rider is a bell end.
 
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caesar said:
Most of the time it's OK, I've been clipped twice in 6 years and I think both of those were during tube strikes. That's not to say that bike lanes and especially ASLs are not always full of bikes and mopeds though. The north end of Blackfriars Bridge northbound at the moment is a joke.

yeh, i noticed blackfriars bridge is a bit crappy when driving over it a few weeks back at 2am, thought the van was gonna get smashed by a taxi and not fit through a gap
 
A couple of things to bear in mind.

a)If you enter a ASL from anywhere apart from the feeder lane, or pass over the Advanced stop line yourself you are also breaking the law.
:biggrin: If a vehicle is already in it, then it has a legal right to be there.
Without a witness or an admission, you will be hard pushed to make it stick that they weren't already there.


Most motorcyclists try to filter to the front of the queue. This is as much a self preservation measure as that of trying to speed their passage through the traffic.
 
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.

Staying visible in the middle of a line of cars is far safer than filtering to the front and then stopping where you shouldn't be. What you mean is that bikers use the ASL as a safe destination for their filtering. Which is illegal and wrong.

Oh, and the line (!) on white lines at ASLs is that there are so many old ones without an entry point that the police will use their common sense for bicycles, who are the only road users allowed in them other than those stuck there when the lights change. We've done this before. I spoke to the Council and the police about this. You just waffle and Google.

If it is in your own words 'a safe destination for their filtering', then it will only be a matter of time before motorcyclists gain the right to use them (being a more vulnerable group on the road)

Can you cite any successful prosecutions against a biker for an ASL offence ?
 
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caesar

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very-near said:
If it is in your own words 'a safe destination for their filtering', then it will only be a matter of time before motorcyclists gain the right to use them (being a more vulnerable group on the road)

Can you cite any successful prosecutions against a biker for an ASL offence ?

Safe for them but not for me if they clip me while accelerating out of it! On junctions with multiple lanes where there is no right turn then I can see the logic in having an ASL for motorbikes and mopeds in the outer lanes, but they shouldn't be mixed.
 
caesar said:
Safe for them but not for me if they clip me while accelerating out of it! On junctions with multiple lanes where there is no right turn then I can see the logic in having an ASL for motorbikes and mopeds in the outer lanes, but they shouldn't be mixed.

I don't for one minute condone the actions of the knob who you had a run in with, and hope you get a result - he was well out of order.
Riding both cycle and m/cycle, I can see both sides of the argument though.
 

Sprocket Dog

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very-near said:
The biggest problem is you are talking about London traffic. I always find it so aggressive when driving or riding up there. No one wants to give an inch :evil:

Agreed. If I commute by bicycle I find it's cyclists that irk me, if I commute by motorcycle it's the motorcyclists that irk me. Don't know why, but it's something I've noticed over the past years.
 
Seems like im lucky then.The only problem I had was when I used Lower Thames Street down from Tower Gateway was the motorcycles always used to use the cycle lane in heavy traffic.I tended to try and keep well out the way or let them pass if they were bugging behind me.They also tend to weave in and out of traffic and become like peds although slightly more visible.I don't tend to use that route as much anyway now as it's more trouble than it's worth.
 

Olly

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the other day i got the fright of my life going round the separate bike lane bit on the south west corner of russell sq.
F**king great motorbike coming the other way !!!!!
in the bike lane !!!!!!

scared the cr*p out me!
 

tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
Sorry to hear your story ceaser.;)

I do the majority of my riding in South London and this is how I've changed my drill viz Motorbikes in Bus Lanes.

Look behind you a lot more!

I figure the greatest risk is when traffic is at a halt or slow moving and so boxing in the Bus Lane, and as we know the average bus lane is not wide enough for a car to pass a cyclist safely.
I ride a meter or so out from the curb which blocks any 'cheeky' drivers, taxis etc, from overtaking but it also gives me time and space to pull over should a motorbike approach. Listen out for exhaust noise too.
 
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