goo_mason
Champion barbed-wire hurdler
- Location
- Leith, Edinburgh
Holding cars up...
- Thread starter magnatom
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- Location
- The Cronk
A number of posters have been given a short-term ban from this thread. Please concentrate on the argument rather than attacking the poster.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Silver Fox
Guru
I'm trying to look as if I'm 'concentrating on the argument', but the truth is I'm fascinated by this notion of a three-game ban and am posting this to see if I'm included in it...
... Whilst at the same time agreeing up to a point with many of the opinions stated on this thread and finding some points of contention in one or two others...
Everyone should be lovely to everyone else in traffic.
lukesdad
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goo_mason
Champion barbed-wire hurdler
- Location
- Leith, Edinburgh
hang on a minute, he needs to say something to my face first . Can we all form an orderly queue.
Also, having looked at the OP's blog (I know- I shouldnt have clicked on it) but Ive noticed he is attempting to get one of his infamous videos as the No1 google search for 'I hate cyclists' - or at least he thinks it will be ' fun' if this happens.
Now remind me what the point of his original post was ? (on second thoughts dont bother- the moments gone)
You're being a bit disingenuous here. He said that if you Google 'Hate Cyclists' his video showing him filtering endlessly through through huge tailbacks comes up on the 2nd results page. He though it would be funny if it was the number one result for 'hate cyclists', and I think most reasonable people would realise why that would be funny in an ironic way. It's hardly one of his 'infamous videos', and his 'attempt' to get it to number one is obviously a tongue-in-cheek comment
For those who want to make up their own mind, the blog entry is here.
doog
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- Location
- The beautiful south
I guess I can only go on what I have seen or read. I have seen three of his videos, one of him chasing down and confronting a female motorist after she gestured at him. The second of him gesturing at a taxi and the confrontation that ensued and the third in that blog. There must be loads more I guess.
I need to be careful in what I say here because in his blog he is wearing a cyclechat jersey and I dont want to inflame things or get a ban. Having watched the two videos I am struggling to see the irony in his blog comments when the evidence of his antics is plain for all to see.
If it was Mr non confrontational cyclist who had posted a one off video that got 1 million hits then a reasonable person might see the irony. What i see is someone who has worked bloody hard in pushing his 1 million hits and is enjoying his cult status in the process.
To jump on here every now and then and come over as Mr innocent is questionable.
Look at the clip below at 1.13 and tell me that taxi driver didnt give him enough room despite him (Mr Magnatom) sitting in the middle of an empty lane. How can any reasonable person agree with his actions and defend them? Look at his gesture towards the taxi driver yet he chased down the female motorist in this thread who gestured at him.
Read the comments to the right of clip.. some of them are shocking but true...one calls him a hypocrite, the guy who hates a female gesturing at him but whom will gladly do the same to another motorist?
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goo_mason
Champion barbed-wire hurdler
- Location
- Leith, Edinburgh
Erm.. read the comment beneath the video. His issue with the guy was NOT a close pass, but that he was too close behind him: "This driver stopped after I made an indication that he had been too close behind me (Palm pushing sign)"
The driver's problem was NOT Magnatom's being 'in the middle of an empty lane'. It was because he apparently 'pulled out in front of a car' whilst he was already going round a roundabout. Not sure of the taxi driver's logic - I think he was trying to come up with any excuse to cover himself.
Secondly - he didn't chase the woman down - they both got stopped at traffic lights ahead, where he asked her what she was saying. Not in any confrontational way (unless you think anyone with a Glaswegian accent is intimidating). She was the one who rolled the window down and launched into the foul-mouthed abuse.
You really seem intent on twisting the facts to suit your bias.
And can you explain the comment "I need to be careful in what I say here because in his blog he is wearing a cyclechat jersey and I dont want to inflame things or get a ban"?
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
doog
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- Location
- The beautiful south
I daresay all taxi drivers are well versed in the mysterious 'palm pushing sign.'......I just see a gesture and I guess he (the taxi driver did to). As you seem intent on pushing this perhaps you can explain, on the OP's behalf, why he feels the need for so much confrontation.
I was commuting when he was in nappies yet can count on one hand the number of confrontations I have had. Could it be I dont have a camera on my head and the need to reach 1 million youtube hits.
You strike me as blind follower of his antics..and antics they are. If he felt the taxi driver was to close for example, why did sit in the middle of the lane and raise the ante and antagonise him? ...you are commenting on what you cant see.I also liked the way you ignored his position prior to the confrontation, a gesture and 'your not passing me' road position would rile any motorist.
As for comment about the ban, read the posts earlier....the Glaswegian accent ? My family are from Motherwell...so try another one, poor effort.
I find myself sitting closer to the fence than the posters in the last couple of pages, but by no means on it.
The Internat is an interesting place to post: If you're looking for people to endorse your theory that Ghengis Khan is alive and well and living in Hoffenheim, you will find them. The fact that Magnatom has his hardline supporters and gainsayers is no surprise.
There will always be slavish adhenrents to a fringe poster; just as there will also always be people who post the contrary view.
Not wanting to throw a match on tinder (or indeed throw a spent match on an already-roaring fire) I have to say I find Magnatom does little to promote cycling, either among cyclists or non-cyclists.
If the Average Joe (Josephine) has a peep at one of his vids out of the blue, how might they react?
1. Magnatom looks jolly angry.
2. He sounds jolly angry.
3. When he finds himself witty and amusing (the VED monologue) many road users might see just a tinge of self regard and perhaps something more serious.
4. I would not be at all surprised if many road users saw this chap as a tireless self-publicist. I'm not saying I do, but the thought is there. The blog is dull, the vids are strange, the man is slightly angry. The book will be a hoot.
There are helpful HelmetCammers who put good, interesting, real-world clips online. It sticks in my craw to endorse any, but my children have been encouraged to have an occasional peep at SillyCyclists.
I would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER suggest that my cycling children watch Magnatom, Traffic Droid or other members of the AngryCam Tendency. To me, that is a significant pointer. Would you want your cycling children to watch this stuff?
No!
I don't want them to think it's OK to ride like that.
I don't want them to think it's OK to get all squawky and aggressive about the tiniest thing.
I don't want them thinking it's OK to ride in a way that some road users might see as 'looking for confrontation'.
I don't want them to think it's OK (under any circumstances) to verbally abuse other road users like that.
I don't really even want them giving witty lectures on the UK tax system at traffic junctions...
Mr Magnatom, I know you're no longer on this forum because people are horrid and you have a book, a blog a Twitter account and some progeny to concentrate on... But if you are:
None of the drivers you encounter in your vids will feel inclined to be any more helpful, considerate or accommodating towards the next cyclist they encounter.
They may even feel slightly less inclined.
The Internat is an interesting place to post: If you're looking for people to endorse your theory that Ghengis Khan is alive and well and living in Hoffenheim, you will find them. The fact that Magnatom has his hardline supporters and gainsayers is no surprise.
There will always be slavish adhenrents to a fringe poster; just as there will also always be people who post the contrary view.
Not wanting to throw a match on tinder (or indeed throw a spent match on an already-roaring fire) I have to say I find Magnatom does little to promote cycling, either among cyclists or non-cyclists.
If the Average Joe (Josephine) has a peep at one of his vids out of the blue, how might they react?
1. Magnatom looks jolly angry.
2. He sounds jolly angry.
3. When he finds himself witty and amusing (the VED monologue) many road users might see just a tinge of self regard and perhaps something more serious.
4. I would not be at all surprised if many road users saw this chap as a tireless self-publicist. I'm not saying I do, but the thought is there. The blog is dull, the vids are strange, the man is slightly angry. The book will be a hoot.
There are helpful HelmetCammers who put good, interesting, real-world clips online. It sticks in my craw to endorse any, but my children have been encouraged to have an occasional peep at SillyCyclists.
I would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER suggest that my cycling children watch Magnatom, Traffic Droid or other members of the AngryCam Tendency. To me, that is a significant pointer. Would you want your cycling children to watch this stuff?
No!
I don't want them to think it's OK to ride like that.
I don't want them to think it's OK to get all squawky and aggressive about the tiniest thing.
I don't want them thinking it's OK to ride in a way that some road users might see as 'looking for confrontation'.
I don't want them to think it's OK (under any circumstances) to verbally abuse other road users like that.
I don't really even want them giving witty lectures on the UK tax system at traffic junctions...
Mr Magnatom, I know you're no longer on this forum because people are horrid and you have a book, a blog a Twitter account and some progeny to concentrate on... But if you are:
None of the drivers you encounter in your vids will feel inclined to be any more helpful, considerate or accommodating towards the next cyclist they encounter.
They may even feel slightly less inclined.
Mugshot
Cracking a solo.
sorry..........couldn't resist!
Well it's about time!!