Holding cars up...

[lukesdad]

Well, I've just look on his blog and guess what story is on his front page.

"Magnatom Bashing", with a link to this thread (capital M and B too).

That's a bit pathetic IMO.

And he is still browsing the forum.

Some people just don t "get it" do they ?

 

[mr_hippo]

Care to point out some videos where he is acting irrationally?
Is he just speaking up for his safety and trying to make the roads a saferplace or is he swearing at random people on the road for no reason?

How many examples do you want?
Let’s examine the video at the start of this thread – “…a driver waves and says something to me as they pass (difficult to see on camera)” and also difficult to hear! Assumptions are always dangerous but I assume that the car in question is RHD, the window was closed as well; that would put the driver about 6 feet away. Bearing in mind that there is traffic noise and other noises, how much noise would the woman have to generate to be heard? I can only assume that the cyclist was lip-reading but how many words can she say in about two seconds? That is how long it took her to pass the bike. Perhaps that ‘conversation’was in the speeded-up footage?
At the lights – cyclist said “You don’t even pay road tax.” But then he claims “And I do pay road tax, I do pay vehicle excise duty.”! So which does he pay – road tax, VED or both?
I will not waste my time on his greatest example of poor cycling – the tanker video, encountering a traffic hazard too fast, not be alert to other road users, etc.

 

[gambatte]

(should they even be on it if as you suggest there is no room for a vehicle to pass)

yes
They're another road user, they are 'traffic', same as horses, agricultural machinery.

They're all allowed on the road and to take responsibility for their own safety, rather than relying on the intelligence of drivers to use restraint and only pass when safe.

In fact wasn't that the point that was made with the court case with Daniel Cadden?

 

[Bicycle]

I don't think any of us that video think that our videos are a good advertisement for cycling, even if there isn't a 'confrontation' or 'conversation'.

A very fair point. I'm sorry; I wasn't clear in what I said. I meant his behaviour (with or without the recording) wasn't a good advertisement for cycling or cyclists. The fact that in the case of Magnatom the protagonist then posts it on line is a side issue.

On a separate note.
People often comment that they think video camera cyclists play up to the camera.

Yes, this gets said and I'm not sure I agree with it in every case. I think some do, but I imagine most don't. I used to record people (with their consent) to collect examples of language use. They'd be visible awkward and aware of the camera for a few moments and then behave absolutely normally. I was always surprised at how the cameras simply disappeared in just a few minutes.

I'm sure there are 'video vigilantes' out there, who play up to their own camera, but they seem to be in the minority.

I'm not sure the 'debate' of primary vs secondary is one worth going into. People have very conflicting opinions and each has it's pro's and con's for each situation. And the situations are different for each area. Just as long as you stay safe on the road, that is the most important thing.

I find myself agreeing with this. I don't 'do' primary myself, but I see instances where it might make sense.

 

[gaz]

[/size]I will not waste my time on his greatest example of poor cycling – the tanker video, encountering a traffic hazard too fast, not be alert to other road users, etc.[/font]

Next you will be saying that we should all stay in bed because cycling on the roads is too dangerous!

Replace mags with a car and run that situation again. Is the car still at fault because they took the roundabout too fast?

 

[BSRU]

I will not waste my time on his greatest example of poor cycling – the tanker video, encountering a traffic hazard too fast, not be alert to other road users, etc.

That's complete crap, of the highest order .

 

[mr_hippo]

Next you will be saying that we should all stay in bed because cycling on the roads is too dangerous!

Replace mags with a car and run that situation again. Is the car still at fault because they took the roundabout too fast?

Next I won't be saying stay in bed! You do not agree with my opinion, however wrong your opinion is you are entitled to it. He was too fast into the roundabout

 

[gaz]

Next I won't be saying stay in bed! You do not agree with my opinion, however wrong your opinion is you are entitled to it. He was too fast into the roundabout

So you think a car would be at fault if the same thing happened to them.

 

[dellzeqq]

Gaz, he does seem to be fairly close to the edge of fury in a couple of clips.

eh?

As in sublimated fury resulting in prolixity?

Happily I've found a way to shorten the pages!

 

[dellzeqq]

But... what if there isn't space for it to pass safely? Do you move over & allow it to overtake with insufficient room? The point is that in most of these videos there isn't the space to pass. That's why the videos are being posted. A lot of magnatom's videos are on urban dual carriageways. They are not wide enough to safely take 2 cars & a bike simultaneously. So where is the bike supposed to go. I'll give you a clue. The answer is primary. If drivers have a problem with that, they are in the wrong, It's not the cyclist ridng 'aggressively that's at fault here. You really are just victim blaming, something I find rather odd I have to say.
As for the 28.5 mph comment. Are you seriously suggesting that the main cause of cars turning into the path of push bikes is due to the cyclist speeding?

exactly. I don't envy him that commute, but if I did it I'd be four or five feet out from the kerb

 

[Hip Priest]

Next I won't be saying stay in bed! You do not agree with my opinion, however wrong your opinion is you are entitled to it. He was too fast into the roundabout

I struggle to see how anyone could blame Magnatom for what happened.

In fact, making such a derisory comment about what was obviously his most distressing incident just seems nasty to me.

 

[ferret fur]

Next I won't be saying stay in bed! You do not agree with my opinion, however wrong your opinion is you are entitled to it. He was too fast into the roundabout

This is so ludicrous it barely deserves an answer but since this is the internet here goes...

If he had been going more slowly, but happened to have set off from home 5 seconds earlier and therefore was slightly further forward in his journey (therefore on the roundabout at the same time as the tanker), would that have made any difference to the outcome of this incident? Nope, the cyclist still would have been nearly crushed by the lorry. It has nothing to do with the speed at which the cyclist entered the roundabout and everything to do with the speed at which the tanker did. (Together with his lack of observation and failure to give way to traffic on the roaundabout).
Sorry.
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[400bhp]

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If the above is aimed at me then I have not slagged off anyone.
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no it wasnt aimed at you.

 

[theclaud]

no it wasnt aimed at you.

Is it cos I dissed Bicycle's writin' style?

 

[dellzeqq]

This is so ludicrous it barely deserves an answer but since this is the internet here goes...

If he had been going more slowly, but happened to have set off from home 5 seconds earlier and therefore was slightly further forward in his journey (therefore on the roundabout at the same time as the tanker), would that have made any difference to the outcome of this incident? Nope, the cyclist still would have been nearly crushed by the lorry. It has nothing to do with the speed at which the cyclist entered the roundabout and everything to do with the speed at which the tanker did. (Together with his lack of observation and failure to give way to traffic on the roaundabout).
Sorry.
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exactly (this is becoming a habit)