Horses?

[jimboalee]

What did 'Arvey Smiff ever do for us?

 

[Lazy-Commuter]

What have the Romans ever done for us?

You'll be defending Reg's right to have a baby next ..

 

[HJ]

no it wasnt'. Most of the road network is tarmac, and that is not ideal for horses hooves. Neither was it paid for by horse riders.
If horse riders had a say in what the road network was built out of (just say, if they'd contributed to it, which they haven't) then they wouldn't choose tarmac.

Oh yes? Who else should be there because they "didn't pay for it" then?? I have heard a similar argument else where and it is complete boll*X...

 

[c2c]

perhaps we should ride along shitting in the road too?

this might surprise you mag00 but its actually quite difficult to do....

 

[buggi]

Where I work there are a couple of stables nearby. It is not unusual to see a horse-rider or pony and trap on the roads during the morning or evening rush-hour. I am amazed at the patience and consideration shown by car drivers to these vulnerable road-users. There is no blasts of the horn, cutting in, nor obscene hand gestures!

So here's a thought - go horsey!

Wear a riding helmet, jodhpurs and knee-length boots. Use a crop to indicate and shout "tally-ho!" alot - just a thought

LOL

Today, i was riding down a single lane 50mph carriageway and a driving instructor allowed his pupil to overtake me when there was oncoming traffic and then 20 yards up the road they overtook a bucket (yes, a bucket!) and gave it as much room as they could.

maybe we should all dress as buckets???

 

[Night Train]

ooh, I'm not sure I have any.... Tell you what, if I remember this weekend, I'll set one up. Although I've not worn the jodhpurs for a while now, they may be a bit tight....

Ooh Arch! Do you ride? Hmmm, interesting!

 

[bonj2]

Doesn't that kind of assume that horse riders don't pay any taxes?

Yes they have contributed to it, in their taxes, along with everyone else.

And yes, most of the road network was built for horses, or pedestrians. it may have since been resurfaced, but it was there long before tarmac was invented and laid over the top.

the fact is horses don't pay road tax.
I have been known to shout "pay some road tax!" at horses when i rode past on my bike

 

[Bollo]

I'm just throwing this one out there but, just possibly.........


Do you think bonj might be on a bit of a wind up? No?

 

[Origamist]

I'm just throwing this one out there but, just possibly.........


Do you think bonj might be on a bit of a wind up? No?

Bonj has been on a wind up for years...and to think, many moons ago, you compared me to him...

 

[Bollo]

Bonj has been on a wind up for years...and to think, many moons ago, you compared me to him...

What can I say? I was young and foolish. I do however still hold you both in the highest regard.

 

[bonj2]

What I mean is that if you ignore modern motorways and the like, the vast majority of roads were built and laid out at time when horses and pedestrians were the only traffic. They may have been resurfaced with tarmac, but that's neither here nor there.

Stage coach operators in most cases had to pay money to the local turn pike trusts who maintained the roads in the old days, so yes, they did pay for it. And car drives don't pay for the road nowadays anyway.

The road as we know it today IS the tarmac. There may have been a dirt track running along the same route in olden times, but that tarmac was paid for out of road tax. Which was paid by motor vehicle owners.
You can say what you like about "central pots" and what not but the fact remains that road tax needs to be charged because of the cost of tarmac, and it is related to emissions which is something that is easy to measure while also being roughly proportional to the damage done to the road.

 

[mickle]

The road as we know it today IS the tarmac. There may have been a dirt track running along the same route in olden times, but that tarmac was paid for out of road tax. Which was paid by motor vehicle owners.
You can say what you like about "central pots" and what not but the fact remains that road tax needs to be charged because of the cost of tarmac, and it is related to emissions which is something that is easy to measure while also being roughly proportional to the damage done to the road.

The roads were tarmaced for bicycles and tricycles I think you'll find. If you look it up.

 

[Cubist]

the fact is horses don't pay road tax.
I have been known to shout "pay some road tax!" at horses when i rode past on my bike

Do you reserve this behaviour for the ones that are being ridden, or any horses you might happen across?

 

[DJ]

Just responding to the OP, I new a guy who hit a cow in his Mini Cooper, ahem, yes you guessed it the cow got up and sauntered off, the car however, well he may as well have driven it off a cliff. Oh and I don't think the cow had payed any road tax either.

 

[peanut]

I think there's a whole raft of reasons why drivers 'respect' horses - I say 'respect' because I reckon half the time it's self preservation rather than any respect for anyone else...

I think it may be partly due to the general attitude of horse riders who are in the main respectful of other road users and the road traffic law.
You don't ever see horse riders going through red lights or along pavements do you.
If cyclists acted more responsibly I'm sure we would be offered a little more consideration


.....nahhhh drivers just hate cyclists full stop