How can wearing a helmet offer no protection from injury?

[Angelfishsolo]

The helmet will clearly be fine if something is dropped directly onto your head.

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[david k]

I'm a newcomer to cycling and therefore do not have the knowledge of some of the previous posters on this discussion thread. Having said that I'm a firm believer in the adage; prevention is better than cure.

Personally I will always wear a helmet when cycling. This gives me comfort in the knowledge that should I have an accident, then the helmet will afford some protection against serious head injury.

a perfectly normal and understandable logic, one i agree with despite others wrongly claiming i believe something else

good post btw

 

[Mark_Robson]

Or more importantly as people claim.........

Which is the real issue- they do offer some protection, but as in a recent case where it was claimed that they prevented facial injuries, some claims do need to be challenged if someone is going to use this information to decide

Agreed.... but it's interesting that no one has challenged Mickles statement. If I had written something along the lines of helmets save lives I would have had all the usual suspects come down on me like a tonne of bricks, yet no one challenges an equally contentious statement.

Could it be that people who do wear helmets and believe that they do have a place in cycling safety read statements like Mickles and think to themselves what's the point in trying to reason with people who think that way?

I find that people who are pro helmet very quickly get worn down to the point that they don't bother contributing to these debates leaving the door wide open for people to write sensationalistic claims that are not challenged.

BTW I took a chunk out of my scalp the other week because I hadn't opened my up and over garage door high enough and I wasn't paying attention when I wheeled my bike out. Wow scalp wounds don't half bleed! Last time I did the same thing I was wearing my helmet and guess what? No scalp wound.

So I can assure you that helmets can, and do prevent injuries. Mind you opening the garage door a little higher works as well.

 

[david k]

AFS, would you prefer to have that helmet on or off if something was dropped on your head?

 

[david k]

I find that people who are pro helmet very quickly get worn down to the point that they don't bother contributing to these debates leaving the door wide open for people to write sensationalistic claims that are not challenged.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

I'm a newcomer to cycling and therefore do not have the knowledge of some of the previous posters on this discussion thread. Having said that I'm a firm believer in the adage; prevention is better than cure.

Personally I will always wear a helmet when cycling. This gives me comfort in the knowledge that should I have an accident, then the helmet will afford some protection against serious head injury.

to understand the naivety of your statement, please do some reading. certain helmet designs, may actually cause more injury. when you bought your helmet, were you trained on how to use it? workers in industry have to be trained to use ppe inc hard hats.

 

[david k]

workers in industry have to be trained to use ppe inc hard hats.

i have been involved in construction, H&S and training for years and nobody ime has ever been trained to wear a hard hat

they do get trained
they do wear hard hats

but they are not trained to wear a hard hat, simply told to

 

[Angelfishsolo]

AFS, would you prefer to have that helmet on or off if something was dropped on your head?

Note my words well. I said the helmet would be fine. I have no idea what state my brain would be in. Also the chances of such an event occurring are beyond my ability to calculate.

 

[david k]

to understand the naivety of your statement, please do some reading.

you claim people are trained to put a hard hat on and then suggest the poster was naive! how ironic

 

[lukesdad]

to understand the naivety of your statement, please do some reading. certain helmet designs, may actually cause more injury. when you bought your helmet, were you trained on how to use it? workers in industry have to be trained to use ppe inc hard hats.

IYO

 

[david k]

Note my words well. I said the helmet would be fine. I have no idea what state my brain would be in. Also the chances of such an event occurring are beyond my ability to calculate.

Maybe, however, id prefer my chances of surviving this incident with a helmet on rather than off

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Agreed.... but it's interesting that no one has challenged Mickles statement. If I had written something along the lines of helmets save lives I would have had all the usual suspects come down on me like a tonne of bricks, yet no one challenges an equally contentious statement.

Could it be that people who do wear helmets and believe that they do have a place in cycling safety read statements like Mickles and think to themselves what's the point in trying to reason with people who think that way?

I find that people who are pro helmet very quickly get worn down to the point that they don't bother contributing to these debates leaving the door wide open for people to write sensationalistic claims that are not challenged.

BTW I took a chunk out of my scalp the other week because I hadn't opened my up and over garage door high enough and I wasn't paying attention when I wheeled my bike out. Wow scalp wounds don't half bleed! Last time I did the same thing I was wearing my helmet and guess what? No scalp wound.

So I can assure you that helmets can, and do prevent injuries. Mind you opening the garage door a little higher works as well.

all your anecdotal evidence suggests, is that pedestrians should use helmets or bump caps and adds to the (widely accepted) statistics that more injuries happen in the home than cycling.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Maybe, however, id prefer my chances of surviving this incident with a helmet on rather than off

Your choice. I would rather see helmet tests that simulate real world events.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Statements like this totally undermine your argument. Helmets do offer a level of protection in the event of an impact. The level of protection may not be as high as people would like but never the less they do offer some protection.

How much?

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

AFS, would you prefer to have that helmet on or off if something was dropped on your head?

why ask this? do people regularly drop heavy items directly onto cyclists heads?