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How much faster ..road bike vs tourer

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Bigtallfatbloke, 16 Sep 2007.

  1. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    I have a daws galaxy (as some may by now now) and I am very happy with it, especially when fully loaded.

    However, something in me is saying I need a roady bike/racer jobby. I want to go faster & further and keep up with you roady types. Why? Well several reasons, but mostly I want to ride on a group ride occasionally. I did it once but to be honest I was outclassed.

    My fitness has improoved a lot this year and I am starting to think I should be able to deal with a faster bike for the daily loops etc and also to allow me to keep up with the roadies on group rides.

    ...anyway...my question really is this....will a new bike help, or should I be able to keep up on my galaxy...i.e is this a fitness issue or a bike issue? I can do the distance, but not the speeds.

    i dont want to buy a new roadie bike and not see an improovement in my speed.
     
  2. andharwheel

    andharwheel Senior Member

    Location:
    Frozen North
    You will notice a big diffrence between your Galaxy and a road bike. Over the summer months I stripped down my Super Galaxy and fitted my spare race wheels. Much faster; however not nearly as fast as my cannondale. When I put the power into that it really goes. For keeping up with roadies and club rides a road bike will be better
     
  3. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    You would definitely feel a difference.

    A decent road bike (£600+) will be substantially lighter and allows you to leave all the touring kit (racks and mudguards etc, permanently on the Galaxy without worrying about it's effect on your day rides.

    The reduction in wheel and tyre rotating mass will make accelerating easier which makes riding in a group easier.

    Spring will always be brighter when it's time to get your shiny road bike out for the first time each year.

    It will allow you to be a roadie. This will remove the pressure to grow a beard.

    But will it make you substantially faster? Well, there will be less wind resistance, and a little less (total rider and bike) mass up the hills and better acceleration which should all translate into being faster, but it is true unfortunately, that "it's not about the bike".

    So, in summary, yes you do need a new road bike.
     
  4. Yep. Agree with Tim - you NEED a new bike. Now is a good time...;)
     
  5. Me on a fully loaded tourer (Dawes Ultra, weighs around 40lb) over 100k - average speed 11mph
    Me on my roadie (Kestrel Evoke, weighs around 18lb) over 100k - average speed 17mph

    Buy the roadie!
     
  6. papercorn2000

    papercorn2000 Senior Member

    You need to ASK whether or not you need another bike? Next you'll be saying that you don't shave your legs...
     
  7. ChrisKH

    ChrisKH Shorts Adjustment Expert

    Location:
    Essex
    Mind you the speed you were going the other week I probably would have been happy to achieve on my (cheap) road bike. But if you're looking for a reason to buy a road bike, I suggest you get the wife onside first...............
    I did (i.e. she said yes, but meant something else I know not what) but she is still using it as a bargaining tool. Women, sheesh.
     
  8. rich p

    rich p ridiculous old lush

    Location:
    Brighton

    something like this perhaps....
     
  9. Cycling Naturalist

    Cycling Naturalist Legendary Member

    Location:
    Llangollen
    Let me guess what the response will be?

    "You're going quite fast enough on your existing bike, so what do you want another one for?"
     
  10. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    Come on big fella, give the rest of us a chance, you already average 27mph over 50 miles on a tourer, what are you gonna be doing on a quick road bike?
     
  11. frog

    frog Guest

    When I said I wanted a new bike the reply I got back was: 'Why? You can only ride one at once.' My response of: 'You can only wear one pair of shoes at a time - so what's your excuse for the other 22 pairs then?' went unanswered.

    Depending on the cost of the bike I'd allow about a month of weedleing for each £400 of bike. About 4 months worth is about average. ;)
     
  12. MarkF

    MarkF Guru

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Having my bikes nicked was in one way a positive thing, I could get one good bike that does everything.

    It's threads like this that led me to have three bikes, one for all occasions and I can see the same thing happening again.;)

    Why can't we have a "My tourer does everything thread"?;)
     
  13. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    ..ok you convinced me:biggrin:.

    ...I will use this as a bargaining ploy with the Mrs (who hates beards).

    4 months eh...ok...so that'd be about Christmas then...hmm...;);)

    ...seriously what i need to do now then is decide which bike to aim for....needs to have a BIG frame size option as I am 6' 4" up.
     
  14. John Ponting

    John Ponting Über Member

    Location:
    Herts
    As you seem "delighted" with your Dawes maybe you could investigate their Audax model? Not a full bodied racer but fleet of foot, light(ish), space for guards and even a small rear rack.
     
  15. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    I had thought along similar lines...but then I thought I may as well just de rack and de mudguard my galaxy...it would be pretty close....if I changed tyres....

    I also looked at the daws giro...but it didnt do it for me in the looks department...

    That £7k bike up top was just a joke...realistically I need to knock a zero of that price tag