How to improve the Tour

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No TT bikes, only one car per team. No stupid transfers, start in the same place the previous stage finishes. Riders can only collect points for one jersey stated at the start of the tour.

Some nice ideas there! I think the first is the most workable (as they already do it in minor races in obscure locations).

I'd add: clearer rider ID. Surely something on helmets would work? (Nat Champs jerseys don't help ... but I think they're cool!)

p.s. are we allowed to talk about safety?? Probably best for another thread ...
 

Pross

Veteran
Aw come on. You must be able to think of something. Carlton Kirby being forced to inhale helium. Anything

Anything they try seems to end being a pointless gimmick (like that gridded mountain stage). I think in recent years a combination of putting in a lot of very lumpy / medium mountain stages with fewer easy to control sprint stages. This has helped in some ways but then in others it has made things worse e.g. when there are sprint stages the break isn’t allowed any kind of gap to provide jeopardy.

I would like some way of making the KOM a serious competition rather than something a bunch of French breakaway specialists target in the first week before it defaults to being won by a GC contender who isn’t even attempting to win it. Not sure how you do that though.
 

geocycle

Legendary Member
I don’t generally like the TTs although the uphill this year was more watchable and I’d get rid of TT bikes which seem an unnecessary complication.

I much prefer linear routes than short circuits.

The ceremonial last stage doesn’t add much for the spectator as sport has little meaning if you dont have competition. Better to finish with a straightforward sprint stage IMO.
 

Aravis

Putrid Donut
Location
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It must be a racing certainty that the Montmatre modification will be seen again, whether next year or not. I hope that next time conditions are good and that times contribute to GC as intended.

The change I would propose is to designate the final sprint before the first Montmatre ascent as a flying stage. This is effectively the same as an intermediate sprint, but given the status of a full stage. There is precedent as flying stages were used in 1977 and 1978, not that most accounts will tell you this. Stage 21 in 1978 technically had three winners - Freddy Maertens at Soissons, Wilfried Wesemael at Compiègne and Jan Raas at Senlis where the day's entertainment concluded. Unsurprisingly the public didn't take to the concept and it was not seen again. Valid idea, wrong time and place perhaps?

As an aside I've often thought the winner of the day's intermediate sprint should get more recognition - maybe a podium visit?
 
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Dogtrousers

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I may be wrong but I don't think helium inhalation is fatal?

Come to think of it, the surreal Kirby experience would probably be little changed by helium.

Over-excitable Hatch would be much better. Especially if accompanied by Sean Kelly breathing xenon, which would deepen his voice.
 
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Dogtrousers

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
There is precedent as flying stages were used in 1977 and 1978, not that most accounts will tell you this. Stage 21 in 1978 technically had three winners - Freddy Maertens at Soissons, Wilfried Wesemael at Compiègne and Jan Raas at Senlis where the day's entertainment concluded. Unsurprisingly the public didn't take to the concept and it was not seen again. Valid idea, wrong time and place perhaps?

You are a mine of information.
 

Aravis

Putrid Donut
Location
Gloucester
You are a mine of information.
Thank you. In this case, the detail is from Wikipedia :blush:. However, I do have corroborating evidence from David Walsh's 1986 biography of Sean Kelly. I remember reading the chapter on the 1978 Alpe d'Huez scandal, where Kelly's teammate and yellow jersey wearer Michel Pollentier was thrown off the race for trying to cheat the doping control. Naturally there was a team meeting to decide what to do. They decided to continue, largely justified in the event as "Demeyer won in Belfort, Maertens in Soissons". Sometimes Maertens is credited with 15 career stage wins, sometimes 16. With the information on flying stages this all starts to add up.
 
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