I got bitten by a dog today...which is a good thing in a way

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[QUOTE 4538963, member: 45"]It's more gruesome than I remember. You have been warned....

If the dog attacks: one defence is aerosol pepper sprays made exactly for this purpose. They have a range of about ten feet and are light enough to clip to the handlebars of your belt. A water pistol loaded with water-ammonia solution will also work, but is a good deal less convenient. If you have neither of these and can't or won't climb a tree to get a stick or large rock. No? The bicycle pump.

Try to ram it down his throat.......If you are weaponless try to tangle him up in your bike and strangle him. Kicks to the genitals and which break the ribs are effective.....If worst comes to worst, ram your entire arm down his throat. He will choke and die. Better your arm than your throat.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if there were different versions or if it's just my fading memory, I suspect the latter. I was sure his suggestion was to hold the bike pump out in front of you using both hands, the dog will then automatically seize the pump, at this point you kick them in the goolies. The dog will go down from this, one assumes clutching it's privates, and you take this opportunity to smash a rock on it's head.
I must have read that somewhere as the memory of it is so detailed and it's certainly not from personal experience.

 

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I knew it!!!

If you have got a pump or a stick hold it at both ends and offer it up to the dog horizontally. Often the dog will bit the stick/pump and hang on. Immediately lift the dog up and deliver a very solid kick to the genitals. Follow up with breaking the dogs ribs or crushing its head with a rock. If worst comes to worst ram your entire arm down its throat. He will choke and die. Better your arm than your throat."

 

[robjh]

I knew it!!!

If you have got a pump or a stick hold it at both ends and offer it up to the dog horizontally. Often the dog will bit the stick/pump and hang on. Immediately lift the dog up and deliver a very solid kick to the genitals. Follow up with breaking the dogs ribs or crushing its head with a rock. If worst comes to worst ram your entire arm down its throat. He will choke and die. Better your arm than your throat."

Wow. Uber-Heseltine.

 

[User16625]

So, I'm riding along by the Trent, an Alsatian on my right with its paws in the water, which I'm keeping an eye on. On my left a couple with 3 other dogs, one of which is a Westie (I think).

Ivan - I know it was called this because the owner was yelling after it - runs alongside me at about 14mph. The dog is at absolute maximum speed and keeps up with me for about 400m. After which if decided to nip me on the ankle - just enough to draw blood.

It hurt a bit, but not much. I've always been very wary of dogs, but I think this experience may have taught me that the bite is worse than the bark sometimes!

So in which way was this good? (mentions it in your topic title, altho it was likely a mistake).

 

[John the Monkey]

I wonder if there were different versions or if it's just my fading memory, I suspect the latter. I was sure his suggestion was to hold the bike pump out in front of you using both hands, the dog will then automatically seize the pump, at this point you kick them in the goolies. The dog will go down from this, one assumes clutching it's privates, and you take this opportunity to smash a rock on it's head.
I must have read that somewhere as the memory of it is so detailed and it's certainly not from personal experience.

Is it wrong that I read this with the music from the Gorn fight (from out of off of Star Trek (original series)) playing in my head?

 

[Ajax Bay]

If you have got a pump or a stick hold it at both ends and offer it up to the dog horizontally. Often the dog will bit the stick/pump and hang on. Immediately lift the dog up and deliver a very solid kick to the genitals. Follow up with breaking the dogs ribs or crushing its head with a rock.

I was referring to that passage when I said "(a paragraph on pump fighting follows - highly amusing, in Richard Ballantyne's style, including targets: 'genitals' 'stomach' and weapons: 'rock' 'solid kick')." Again, this is just a small snapshot of a quite excellent book (available for small money on Amazon (get the 'New' version)).
Think it's worth pointing out that he only advocates these extreme defence/attack measures "Don't run, cower, or cover up, because the dog will only chew you to ribbons. Attack. (his italics) . . small dog . . . With a big dog you are fighting for your life. . " if his early advice doesn't work ("All you have to do is to stop, dismount, and face the dog directly.")

 

[John the Monkey]

https://seanmunger.com/2013/10/23/stravinsky-in-space-the-classic-fight-music-from-star-trek-audio/


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dnZHea_TI0

 

[Julia9054]

Labradors are not a breed known for aggression. Are you sure 'attack' was really the right word? Running alongside, jumping up maybe - and obviously it's not what you want - but that's not quite an attack.

As for the nipping collie though, I can well imagine it. We had one once and I recognise that dart forward-nip-retreat behaviour - we were constantly telling people not to stroke him.

Whether it is jumping up to lick you or to bite you doesn't matter. You are still likely to lose control of your bike.
I was riding to work a couple of weeks ago along a busy road when a dog on an extendable lead rushed straight out from the pavement into the road at me, its owner completely unable to control it. I swerved into the traffic to avoid it knocking me off. Fortunately the car behind me was concentrating.
Those bloody things should be banned.

 

[robjh]

Whether it is jumping up to lick you or to bite you doesn't matter. You are still likely to lose control of your bike.
I was riding to work a couple of weeks ago along a busy road when a dog on an extendable lead rushed straight out from the pavement into the road at me, its owner completely unable to control it. I swerved into the traffic to avoid it knocking me off. Fortunately the car behind me was concentrating.
Those bloody things should be banned.

Dogs or extendable leads?
If the latter then I'm no fan either, as they're so hard to get a proper grip on or reel back in quickly.

 

[TrishE]

Dogs or extendable leads?
If the latter then I'm no fan either, as they're so hard to get a proper grip on or reel back in quickly.

When used properly an extending lead is locked to be a short lead in situations like pavements. Unfortunately not many dog owners have the common sense needed.

 

[robjh]

When used properly an extending lead is locked to be a short lead in situations like pavements. Unfortunately not many dog owners have the common sense needed.

I find the big plastic handles make them very inflexible to use. With a normal lead I can just wind it quickly round my wrist to pull the dog back, with an extendable you're more or less stuck in an emergency with the length at which you've fixed it. You can release the switch so it reels in but it's not strong enough to pull against a dog.

 

[simon.r]

So in which way was this good? (mentions it in your topic title, altho it was likely a mistake).

See post no. 19.

 

[simon.r]

Westies are little shoots. Snappy little buggers as the best of times. Out of the 3 times I have been hospitalised for dog bites, 2 of the were Westie bites.
I hope it's owner apologised.

It had chased / followed me a good 400m by the time it snapped so if she did apologise I wouldn't have heard it!

 

[TrishE]

I find the big plastic handles make them very inflexible to use. With a normal lead I can just wind it quickly round my wrist to pull the dog back, with an extendable you're more or less stuck in an emergency with the length at which you've fixed it. You can release the switch so it reels in but it's not strong enough to pull against a dog.

It can be locked to a very short length if it's not strong enough to hold the dog in the locked position the dog is too strong to be on the lead. I was knocked over, on foot, by a husky on an extending lead and was later told that husky dogs shouldn't be on extending leads due to their running and nature.

 

[GuyBoden]

Quote: RICHARD BALLANTINE
21st Century Bicycle Book

"Nine times out of ten, dogs are normally friendly. All you
have to do is stop, dismount, and face the dog
directly. That's all. Simply stop. Often he will come
up wagging his tail and wanting to make friends."

"People do get bitten, but the majority of injuries happen
because the cyclist panics, loses control of the
bike, and crashes. Unless you are extraordinarily
accomplished, it is very difficult to ride a bike and
deal with a dog at the same time. By stopping, you
immediately increase your ability to control the situation."