I have a hankering for climbing mountains on a road bike - location suggestions please?

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Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Gearing wise I might look to make some alterations depending on what I end up trying to tackle, and how much elevation in total.
In Tuscany I was tending to drive to the vicinity of the climb, and then either up and down, or a circular route with ascent and descent, and these were between 2-3 hours. I didn't check my gearing, but latterly realised my lowest gear was 36/28, which was manageable, but the percentage was rarely over two figures, and was more lengthy than properly steep. I think if I'm looking at steeper I'd need to look at altering a bike to have a 36/34 bottom gear, and that would give me a much better chance of success / completing more climbs.

I'd be going for even lower than that, but I am an old git.

My current bike has a low end of 34/32, and if I get a new one, or upgrade the gears on my current one, I'd be going for 34/36 as the lowest (the standard 105Di2 rear mech can cope with an 11-36 cassette).

There is a lot of climbing round here (Vale of Glamorgan), but most of it is short, fairly steep climbs, you only have a few longer ones such as the Bwlch (mentioned above).
 

N0bodyOfTheGoat

Senior Member
Location
Hampshire, UK
IIRC Dan is quite light, ~70Kg (maybe lower), so the low gearing he will need to spin at a sub threshold power would be far lower than big bloater me at 93Kg.
 
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Dan Lotus

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IIRC Dan is quite light, ~70Kg (maybe lower), so the low gearing he will need to spin at a sub threshold power would be far lower than big bloater me at 93Kg.
You have a fine memory sir, I was well under 70, but alas for a couple of years have been over, and seem unable to shift it, currently sat at 74kg, perhaps the age of 49 has some bearing, or my will power is shot.

I think the 36/28 was viable for me, mostly due to being happy with a low cadence.
On the first ride when I kept pace with my partner on her gravel bike I dropped as low as 29 🤪
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I must say a 34 x 34 got me up some stupid steep climbs on the Mad Manc version of Tour De Manc, including Ramsbottom Rake after 80 miles of riding up hills, with another 40 to go. You can do the steep stuff on bigger gears and shorter rides, but not if you want to do long distances. That gear also got me up some really nasty steep climbs I've never cleared before on lower gears more locally, even when young. We used to avoid Jenkins Chapel on club runs, preferring Windgather climb. I tried it on a 39 x 24 and got half way before walking as the gradient isn't constant 25% then 15%, then 25%, etc. 34x34 was fine, and 15 years older.
 

Aravis

Putrid Donut
Location
Gloucester
When I came back from my first taste of continental cycling, I felt very much the same. Riding long climbs giving ample time to feel the rhythm, reaching summits and plateaux where the air is crisp; this was what cycling should be about. There aren't climbs of the same dimensions in these islands, though some are big enough to give something of the flavour. All too often they are in areas where the roads are sparse and options are necessarily limited.

In my experience, no part of the UK comes closer to recalling the essence of continental upland cycling than the valleys of South Wales. It's a post-industrial landscape so roads are denser than would otherwise be expected. There are endless options for riding valleys, hopping between them, and riding the ridges as well. An important caveat is that when I rode there in the 80s and 90s I didn't regard any road as off-limits; a bit more caution in route selection might be required nowadays, but as compensation there may be better off-road options than I remember.

Purely for illustrative purposes, here is a route I created just now. All roads I've ridden and enjoyed at some time:

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Not quite the heights you'd've found in Tuscany, but it does have the brontosaurus profile you're looking for.

Some climbs from the area have been mentioned such as the Rhigos and the Bwlch. The latter is a three-headed monster, and it would be a nice challenge to complete a ride including all three ascents. Beyond me nowadays, sadly.

I would say that the climbing is generally easier than in the Pennines, but there are plenty of tough options if you want to seek them out.

You can easily link to the adjacent Brecon Beacons which has some of Britain's best climbs. Perhaps they can be usefully thought of as a single region. You could spend many days riding around and feel you'd hardly scratched the surface.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Come to the general northwest and Yorkshire and you can find plenty of excellent climbing.

In the Lakes you'll find the traditional passes and plenty of others. Ride the Fred Whitton route, 114 miles, 12,000 feet, 7 major passes. You could ride The Struggle and several other less well publicised climbs.

In the wide general area of the Ribble Valley and Forest of Bowland you'll find perhaps 10 serious climbs, several of which can be put together to make loops of 80 miles and 8000 feet - these were my Fred training.

Across in Yorkshire I've got a 90 mile, 8500 feet loop which takes in Lamp Moss, Buttertubs and Fleetmoss.

As has been mentioned you have GDF and lots of other climbs up towards Cumbria. I believe there's excellent climbing in Derbyshire but other than Snake Pass and Holme Moss I've never ridden over there.

As a general comment I would say the wider northwest area and Yorkshire offer the best cycling in the UK for all types of riding.
 
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I like Skol

A Minging Manc...
Had a week in Lucca earlier this year riding out daily from a base within the city walls. Fantastic cycling, scenery and food.

We just don't have roads like it in the UK. I particularly like the twisty ascents/descents.
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This was a day we had a fantastic and generous lunch stop at a traditional trattoria in the foothills and also a vineyard tour (with more food) about 8 miles from the end.

Closest you might get, terrain wise, in the UK would be parts of Wales or Scotland. When I did Lejog a few years ago, Scotland was definitely the most stunning and remote part of the trip.
 
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Dan Lotus

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Had a week in Lucca earlier this year riding out daily from a base within the city walls. Fantastic cycling, scenery and food.

We just don't have roads like it in the UK. I particularly like the twisty ascents/descents.
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This was a day we had a fantastic and generous lunch stop at a traditional trattoria in the foothills and also a vineyard tour (with more food) about 8 miles from the end.

Closest you might get, terrain wise, in the UK would be parts of Wales or Scotland. When I did Lejog a few years ago, Scotland was definitely the most stunning and remote part of the trip.

That sounds wonderful, and highly enjoyable, especially with the wine element mixed in!
Out of interest, was that a package, or any routes organised by the lady who runs the Lucca cycling club? She's not a local, Scandivanian I seem to remember, Alison perhaps?

My two favourite rides completed were these two below, didn't manage to ride where you went, but I have a route mapped north of Lucca, so really keen to give that a go next time:
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N0bodyOfTheGoat

Senior Member
Location
Hampshire, UK
I had a really quick look on web browser Strava last night in the maps section (filter by climbs and distance and surface), on my free subs account, looking around North Wales...

I was quite surprised to see a ~10 mile 3%+ average climb from near Caernarfon to somewhere near Dinorwig hydroelectric power station, that climbed over 2000 feet... So close to being a Strava cat1 climb (biggest I've done in real world is the cat2 Road To Hell ~1209 feet 6.9 miles)!😱😍
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
I had a really quick look on web browser Strava last night in the maps section (filter by climbs and distance and surface), on my free subs account, looking around North Wales...

I was quite surprised to see a ~10 mile 3%+ average climb from near Caernarfon to somewhere near Dinorwig hydroelectric power station, that climbed over 2000 feet... So close to being a Strava cat1 climb (biggest I've done in real world is the cat2 Road To Hell ~1209 feet 6.9 miles)!😱😍

That's Marchlyn Mawr reservoir and i think the highest surfaced road in Wales, a bleak and lonely road. Beware of the cattle grids, which are pointed and wreck wheels.

There is another such road, Llyn Stwlan, near Blaenau Ffestiniog, which is wonderful and highly recommended

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/your-ride-today.173254/page-1964#post-6522476
 

kynikos

Veteran
Location
Elmet
;) Doing the Lairig Ghru would give you 2,275 feet of climbing but "you may need to push your bike for some segments of this route".

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Here's a good video guide to doing it:



My kind of cycling...
 
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