I really am starting to hate cars!

[Drago]

Provided they're not Cat A or B then horses have the ability to self heal. They can also reproduce, which is handy.

 

[screenman]

Provided they're not Cat A or B then horses have the ability to self heal. They can also reproduce, which is handy.

That is my income gone for a pop, I wonder how many others it would effect. Not that I think a car free world would not be a nicer place, but I would need to get some kind of public transport going on out here.

 

[Drago]

You could become a blacksmith. That'll be a boom industry.

 

[NorthernDave]

The problem is that outside London, public transport in this country is a joke.
Yesterday we decided to leave the car at home and use the bus. The outward journey was OK, apart from taking 40 minutes to do a journey that would take 15 mins in the car.
However, when we went for a bus home we found we'd just missed one. Because it was after 7pm this meant the service had dropped back to half hourly, from the daytime "every 10 minutes" service.
Then the bus stop display announced that the next bus was cancelled, leaving us with a 50 minute wait.
So we took a 10 minute walk across the city centre for the alternative service, which again we just missed.
So we ended up getting a third choice, which left us with a 15 minute walk on getting off at the stop nearest home. It's far from the first time something similar has happened and that's enough to stop me using the bus for a good while.
Unfortunately one bus company has been allowed o develop a virtual monopoly on services in Leeds and appears to run the buses on this basis. Tens of millions in public money have been spent on a misguided busway on York Rd which perpetuates this monopoly as only their buses use it.
In theory Mrs ND should be able to walk out of work at 5pm, cross the road and catch an "every 10 minutes" service home, yet frequently waits up to 30 minutes or more for a bus.
Until public transport is cheap, reliable and operates where and when people want to use it, we're stuck with the current situation, no matter how unsatisfactory it is.

 

[summerdays]

My children have had problems getting to work when relying on public transport. One had a Saturday job at a large shopping centre and yet there wasn't a direct bus there until after the shops opened. And when they finished on lates the same problem. Now my middle child at uni has a placement which again is in a remote village which has a 5 times a day bus service, the first one gets in half an hour after they start and last bus back is just before they finish. It is pushing my child to having to think about getting a car despite the fact they don't want to have that cost at this stage.

 

[gavroche]

Using horses is not an option, too slow. Range would be restricted to a 30 mile radius, and that is only one way. Also, who would clean the horse s**t on the roads?
A horse has to be fed and cared for 24/7. Where would people in flats keep their horses? Totally impracticable in the 21st century. The car is here to stay, maybe in a different form in the future .

 

[jefmcg]

Also, who would clean the horse s**t on the roads?

That's easy. All the people made unemployed by the end of the car. Plenty of work there; apparently Victorian roads were disgusting.

 

[night rider]

theres far too many car threads on this cyclechat site. if only there was a dedicated forum somewhere on the internet for folk who want to haver on about cars & cars & cars & cars

 

[craigwend]

& that problem with ...
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[tyred]

Must confess I like cars and generally enjoy driving so long as it doesn't involve urban roads. If I have reason to visit a large town or city I will usually abandon the car at the first available opportunity and proceed on foot.

My car might be an ancient heap of junk in most people's eyes but it offers sanctuary, personal space and music of my choice which the bus can't do and also takes me exactly where I want to go without detours, constant stops and having to change to chance to several different vehicles and I don't have to stand and wait on it in the rain.

 

[swee'pea99]

The car is here to stay, maybe in a different form in the future

In 50 years time, you'll get in your car, input your destination and watch a movie. The computer will do everything else, in league with The Computer, which will control your entire journey, coordinating it with every other journey taking place at the same time, optimising journey times and eradicating traffic jams and accidents.

Obviously a market element will remain - pay more, get there quicker - but driving as we know it will be history. If you want to be in control of your own journey, you will have but one option. One with two wheels...

 

[Brandane]

In 50 years time

50? 5 might be nearer the mark.

 

[jefmcg]

you'll get in your car

I don't think people will own cars: why should they, if they can just order a driverless car to their front door, why would they keep one in their garage not moving most of the time?

 

[Arrowfoot]

Motorised vehicles are really important to me. Without them I could not take delivery of bikes, frames, group sets, and all the bells and whistles that come with it over the years. I then get on the bikes and ride into the tranquility of the countryside and avoid all that noise, smell and pollutants some of which I contributed. What a life.

 

[mustang1]

Using horses is not an option, too slow. Range would be restricted to a 30 mile radius, and that is only one way. Also, who would clean the horse s**t on the roads?
A horse has to be fed and cared for 24/7. Where would people in flats keep their horses? Totally impracticable in the 21st century. The car is here to stay, maybe in a different form in the future .

I often joke with Mrs Mustang that we should go everywhere on scooters/motorbikes. The thing is she thinks I'm joking.