I think this is not okay can I get some expert advice

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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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There should be no gap, what ever the material.
 

silva

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Location
Belgium
That story mentions only one side of the coin.
The buyer from China wants to pay a price not more than X, and in China they say OK to get the order and do whatever (cost cutting at expense of quality) is needed to be able to sell at that X.
That "whatever" is thus a consequence of buyers demand.
Why does for ex a US company chose China instead of US as a source: because China does it cheaper including shipping and whatever trade costs.
A willingness to pay more means in China they don't have to cut costs, and quality is accordingly.
For ex lately, sport shoes. My size is EU 47
Brand "Reebok", is well-known, due to advertising, tagged as Made in Vietnam, as EU 47, no material mentioned, but I judge it as leather.
Brand "Polo", never heard of, tagged as Made in China, as EU 45, as 85% cow leather 15% fabric..
Guess what: the Reebok 47 ones were too small, and the Polo 45 suited.
That's how Reebok/Made in Vietnam had cut cost: by falsely labeling 45 as bigger 47.
The outer sole lengths were the same, so some1 just comparing on sight is fooled, but the upper of the Reebok was clearly shorter. A bit less leather/material.
The difference of the curves of the seat clamp parts is too big to be explained as tolerance / quality control. It's more likely that some stock leftovers of different/newer/older models were mixed in order to get rid of a remaining old stock.
 
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Webbo2

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That story mentions only one side of the coin.
The buyer from China wants to pay a price not more than X, and in China they say OK to get the order and do whatever (cost cutting at expense of quality) is needed to be able to sell at that X.
That "whatever" is thus a consequence of buyers demand.
Why does for ex a US company chose China instead of US as a source: because China does it cheaper including shipping and whatever trade costs.
A willingness to pay more means in China they don't have to cut costs, and quality is accordingly.
For ex lately, sport shoes. My size is EU 47
Brand "Reebok", is well-known, due to advertising, tagged as Made in Vietnam, as EU 47, no material mentioned, but I judge it as leather.
Brand "Polo", never heard of, tagged as Made in China, as EU 45, as 85% cow leather 15% fabric..
Guess what: the Reebok 47 ones were too small, and the Polo 45 suited.
That's how Reebok/Made in Vietnam had cut cost: by falsely labeling 45 as bigger 47.
The outer sole lengths were the same, so some1 just comparing on sight is fooled, but the upper of the Reebok was clearly shorter. A bit less leather/material.
The difference of the curves of the seat clamp parts is too big to be explained as tolerance / quality control. It's more likely that some stock leftovers of different/newer/older models were mixed in order to get rid of a remaining old stock.

I guess English isn’t your first language but saying Reebok are saving money buy selling size 45’s as 47’s is just bollocks as they would be getting so many returns.
 

silva

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Belgium
I guess English isn’t your first language but saying Reebok are saving money buy selling size 45’s as 47’s is just bollocks as they would be getting so many returns.
Recap: I didn't get it from somewhere - I have both pairs in possession - put them on myself, saw the differences myself. I assumed the Reebok 47's would certainly fit, an the Polo 45 maybe (sport shoes tend to be bigger made than dress shoes). It turned out to be the opposite - the 45 fit, and the 47 were too short.
The Reebok shoes might be falsely branded as such, fakes do exist, I don't see anything on them indicating fake, and whether fake or not is also not relevant here - it was an example case of cost cutting along cheating with the product, regardless who made it.
 

Webbo2

Über Member
Recap: I didn't get it from somewhere - I have both pairs in possession - put them on myself, saw the differences myself. I assumed the Reebok 47's would certainly fit, an the Polo 45 maybe (sport shoes tend to be bigger made than dress shoes). It turned out to be the opposite - the 45 fit, and the 47 were too short.
The Reebok shoes might be falsely branded as such, fakes do exist, I don't see anything on them indicating fake, and whether fake or not is also not relevant here - it was an example case of cost cutting along cheating with the product, regardless who made it.

Again unless you have another pair of Reeboks where there 47’s are different size to your recent purchases of their 47’s. I can’t see how you can prove cost cutting by them making smaller shoes.
To be honest how much they would save by making a shoe a few millimetres shorter would be minuscule.
 
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