Idiots at work

[jarlrmai]

most pavement cyclists round here jump onto the road if they need to to, they just use a bike as a way to increase their walking speed.

 

[steveindenmark]

It is no secret that we all need lights when it is dark.

It may not break the bank to buy those cheap lights and hand them out but I really cannot see the reason to even scratch my bank account for someone is either too lazy to go and buy a set of lights or just cannot be bothered to light up.

The best wake up call for those people is to be pulled by the police.

Steve

 

[steveindenmark]

Very poor people in very poorly paid jobs who have had their lights stolen. That paints a very good Dickens picture Adrian, but I don't buy it.

You have shown how cheap lights can be and those lights are simple to take off and take into the workhouse.

Steve

 

[markharry66]

its up to them to make sure they are safe and also make sure other road, pavement users can see them. If they cant go to pound land and get lights for £3 they should not be riding.

 

[tadpole]

Ok So it's three quid for the lights, and just how long till the batteries run out? week or two, or if you get them from pound land maybe a few hours. then what? buy some more, but if you're on a fixed income or poor spending a fiver a week for batteries . Some families I know, a £5 is what stands between them giving their kids food for school or not.

 

[Maylian]

Ok So it's three quid for the lights, and just how long till the batteries run out? week or two, or if you get them from pound land maybe a few hours. then what? buy some more, but if you're on a fixed income or poor spending a fiver a week for batteries . Some families I know, a £5 is what stands between them giving their kids food for school or not.

Not entirely sure on the logic of this? Firstly it is the law to have lights, secondly if they get hit or hit someone whilst riding without lights then they're likely to be out of pocket far more than £5. Occasionally I take it upon myself to ride behind or infront of cyclists with no lights for a while just to help them out.

I personally love bike lights, cheaper than buying a new bike and I think they look good. People that ride without lights and use the pavement in icy conditions because they think it is safer are on a path to nowhere I think. Personally find that roads are the safest place to be if self-illuminated correctly as the cars disperse that ice so much faster at this time of the year.

 

[sazzaa]

Ok So it's three quid for the lights, and just how long till the batteries run out? week or two, or if you get them from pound land maybe a few hours. then what? buy some more, but if you're on a fixed income or poor spending a fiver a week for batteries . Some families I know, a £5 is what stands between them giving their kids food for school or not.

Being poor isn't an excuse to break the law.

 

[tadpole]

Being poor isn't an excuse to break the law.

you've never been poor then.

 

[sazzaa]

you've never been poor then.

There have definitely been times in my life when I haven't been able to go on three holidays a year. It was awful.

 

[Twelve Spokes]

What is it with either red on the front or white on the back?

 

[potsy]

We had a guy at work who had lights but only turned the front one on if he was approaching a major junction or roundabout, said the batteries lasted longer that way

Generally the 20 or so regular cyclists here are pretty good, some of them even stop at the occasional red light

 

[sheffgirl]

Ok So it's three quid for the lights, and just how long till the batteries run out? week or two, or if you get them from pound land maybe a few hours. then what? buy some more, but if you're on a fixed income or poor spending a fiver a week for batteries . Some families I know, a £5 is what stands between them giving their kids food for school or not.

I got some of those lights from Poundland along with some batteries in October. The front light wasn't too clever but the back light is still going strong, and is quite bright. I have it clipped to my backpack as an extra in addition to the ones on my bike (£6 from Argos last year). I put the batteries in my existing lights and the lights are still working, I've been using them for about an hour each workday, and I've even left them on a few times whilst at work.

 

[CopperBrompton]

if you're on a fixed income or poor spending a fiver a week for batteries

Three quid for lights, £12 for a charger and set of AA Eneloops that will then cost them about a penny per charge. I don't buy that it's about not being able to afford lights.

 

[classic33]

Ok So it's three quid for the lights, and just how long till the batteries run out? week or two, or if you get them from pound land maybe a few hours. then what? buy some more, but if you're on a fixed income or poor spending a fiver a week for batteries . Some families I know, a £5 is what stands between them giving their kids food for school or not.

Set of lights from Poundland would cost £2, with another £1 for a 12 pack of Kodak batteries. From the same place.
So price can be ruled out.
Who'd be at fault if they were hit?

 

[asterix]

Being poor isn't an excuse to break the law.

No, you need to be rich to do that successfully.