In my eyes it is stealing.

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subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Eh?
Doing the weekly shop and I buy something to eat immediately. Consuming it before I get to the till and then presenting the empty packaging and pay for it doesn't even register on my "offended decency-meter"

Many years ago when she was a toddler my daughter ( not that I own her - just to stop the comments from the flowery twotz ) was extremely thirsty and hungry as I had cocked up timings and trains . She was at the “ annoying miserable feckers who forget that kids get unhappy” stage so I went into closest shop and got bottle of plain water and some fruit and gave her a drink and some food while I perused the victuals for me . Nothing appetising I went to the till and paid for what I had opened . The guy on till was quite thrown at me presenting empty packets to pay for , apparently most people just ate and fecked off.
 

Stephenite

Membå
Location
OslO
My three-year-old stole a macaroon.

Singles, on display at her height. She popped it into her mouth before i knew anything about it. I couldn't just fish it out and put it back so I paid for it at the checkout.

But, really, that one was on them - not me.
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
Nobody ever been to a 'pick your own' fruit farm and scoffed a few pieces while on the way round without offering extra money at the end?
Talking to one owner earlier in the year, they often find paper dishes & empty cream pots in the fields at the end of the day
 

siadwell

Guru
Location
Surrey
Talking to one owner earlier in the year, they often find paper dishes & empty cream pots in the fields at the end of the day
Indeed. At my local fruit farm they had dogs specially trained to sniff out cream and caster sugar on people before they were allowed in the strawberry fields.
 

screenman

Squire
I'm not really caring what anybodies stance is here. Stealing happens and always will, sometimes for fun or to look cool, sometimes to survive...

And as for not using stuff till its paid for - is anybody driving a car owned by a bank or lending service, or living in a home with a mortgage still on it? Sure, you intend to pay and most likely will - just like the people handing over entry packets to be scanned...

I've handed over packs and been told (random item I thought of) "theres a fruit shoot missing in this pack, shall I get you a replacement?" -"no, my daughter had one already I'm afraid" - you haven't stolen in the eyes of the law ( I think) until you've left the premises..

I got 2 packs of green and blacks miniatures (usually around £12.50) for £2.50 each as someone had opened them ... wasn't complaining at all, one was full and one had 2 miniatures missing.

And also remember that not only employees but also businesses steal - I remember buying my amplifiers and getting free cables, the company writes them off as stolen and insurance claim happens.. insurance companies have stolen by not covering policies they should have also, I'm sure...

Too much worrying about petty things that you cannot change... I'd rather someone stole from a business than someone's home...


Steal from me or the business I own, no difference.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
See, in the good old days the tea leave a wore a balaclava, carried shooters and slapped the staff round a bit. Now they've really plumbed the depths and take bits of chocolate without laying for it.
Unless they were night workers, in which case they wore a stripey top and a bag clearly marked 'SWAG'. Most considerate. You just don't get that kind of 'honour among thieves' these days, more's the pity.
 

MikeG

Guru
Location
Suffolk
.......And as for not using stuff till its paid for - is anybody driving a car owned by a bank or lending service, or living in a home with a mortgage still on it?.........

There's a fundamental misunderstanding going on here. You HAVE paid for a car on finance, or a house on a mortgage. It is yours 100%, and the person who sold it has the money. All the money. It's just that you owe a third party . The analogy with shopping is that you pay for all your goods at the check-out, but with some money you borrowed from your mum. You've paid for the goods, you own the goods, and the seller has the money for the goods. Your private arrangements with your mother is none of the shop's concern.
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
There's a fundamental misunderstanding going on here. You HAVE paid for a car on finance, or a house on a mortgage. It is yours 100%,
That's not strictly true in the case of car finance, you don't actually own the car until it's fully paid off, as for the mortgage in the old days the BS used to hold onto the deeds, now I think they just put a charge on the land registry.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Ok,it's confession time. About 12 years ago when little Accy Cyclist was about 9 i was in a local corner type shop with her. As i was paying for items at the till i looked back to see her squatting down and filling her pockets with that one penny pick&mix stuff. Her face froze when she saw me looking at her. I discretely shook my head at her. She dropped the things back in the box. I certainly wasn't going to do that thing where a parent informs the shop,or even worse the police about what their child had done. I think that would've dented our father and daughter relationship for a very very long time,plus i worked for the family who owned the shop,in one of their larger shops/stores a few years before. Honestly,most of the family were terrible to work for. The nicest one was the dad,but he died soon after me starting. On one of my first days i was outside tidying some cardboard boxes away when an estate car/van pulled up and the driver started to drop similar boxes out of the car into the shop's skip. Me thinking i was doing the right thing said something to the driver like "er please don't drop those here as it's the shop's skip not a council one". The driver turned out to be one of the family who owned the shops and stores. Now if it'd been me i'd have said 'Oh that's alright,i'm one of the family,but well done for attempting to stop who you thought was a fly tipper',or something like that. No,he didn't say that,he said words to the affect of 'who the f..k are you'?! 'Keep your f..k..g nose out,i'm one of the (he used the family name)family'! Needless to say i was shocked and felt like something he'd trodden in. I was also one day talking to a friend(about some wine he was thinking of buying),but also a customer in the store when one of the owning family's daughters came up and again said words to the affect of "Don't stand their chatting to your mates when we're paying you to work,get back to f..k..g work and tell your mate to get the f..k out my shop". You see now why i didn't think it was wise,fair or safe to do the 'decent thing' and tell the owners that little Accy Cyclist had attempted to steal a few pence of sweets from them. Even though she was below the age at the time of criminal responsibility that terrible family would not have let it drop!
 
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