Jaywalkers ( or whatever there called in the uk)

[Tin Pot]

What if it is mid way?

Drive instead.

 

[PedalCat]

[QUOTE 3326426, member: 9609"]when a car hits a cyclist the driver should have been looking out for cyclists and have taken more care, when a cyclist hits a pedestrian the pedestrian should have been looking out for cyclists and have taken more care. Do cyclists ever have any responsibilities anywhere ever?[/QUOTE]
I don't suppose any relevant research evidence exists, but i'd bet that of pedestrians, cyclists and drivers, cyclists pay the most attention generally.

 

[G3CWI]

"On an average ride pedestrians are a greater hazard for me than cars."

No they are not, that's ridiculous.

...they are if you ride through a pedestrian precinct!

 

[benb]

True.
I was told by a policeman that the only right of way that pedestrians have is on an actual marked crossing point.
If they aren't on a crossing then a car doesn't have to give way/stop for them

I think what he was saying is that when a pedestrian crosses at a zebra crossing, the traffic must stop.
But that doesn't mean drivers can just run people over that happen to be crossing the road.

 

[Rykard]

almost ran one over last week, ran over a set of pedestrian lights that were on green then turned 90 deg right and ran straight in front of me, stopped and tooted my horn to alert him to my presence, but how do you miss a Discovery with it's lights on?????

Too many people walk around with no sense of what is around them, head phones in or on the phone..

 

[vickster]

I think what he was saying is that when a pedestrian crosses at a zebra crossing, the traffic must stop.
But that doesn't mean drivers can just run people over that happen to be crossing the road.

Or indeed cyclists

 

[benb]

Or indeed cyclists

Yes, of course. I should have worded that better.

 

[Beebo]

And yet I see cyclists sprinting hard every time I'm there. IMO Tooley Street marks the end of the hard ride, time to take it easy!

I take it easy as soon as I hit Jamacia Road. Tooley Street is a total nightmare. Too many people rushing in and out of London Bridge Station.

 

[andyfraser]

Too many people walk around with no sense of what is around them, head phones in or on the phone..

It's possible to be both aware and use headphones or a phone. I always listen to something when I'm walking but I make sure I'm extra aware of what's going on around me i.e. I'll look behind me before moving from the left hand edge of the path (I always walk on the left) and take extra care crossing a road. If I want to use my phone, e.g. to send a text, I stop walking. It's not hard but that didn't stop a teenager from nearly walking right into me the other week because he was so engrossed in his phone.

 

[vickster]

It's possible to be both aware and use headphones or a phone. I always listen to something when I'm walking but I make sure I'm extra aware of what's going on around me i.e. I'll look behind me before moving from the left hand edge of the path (I always walk on the left) and take extra care crossing a road. If I want to use my phone, e.g. to send a text, I stop walking. It's not hard but that didn't stop a teenager from nearly walking right into me the other week because he was so engrossed in his phone.

Walking through the City in rush hour is a nightmare with people on phones, texting, reading books...and then chuck tourists into the mix!!

 

[ScotiaLass]

I think what he was saying is that when a pedestrian crosses at a zebra crossing, the traffic must stop.
But that doesn't mean drivers can just run people over that happen to be crossing the road.

Yes. I'm not very good at explaining myself sometimes (in my head it made perfect sense!)

 

[downfader]

We call them "Lemmings" here. Not just from cyclists either - the local drivers dislike the roads around by the Uni for this reason.

A few weeks back I nearly hit someone on the bike despite going slowly and ringing the bell. He'd barged into the road playing with the phone and in front of a bus coming the other way, then skipped in front of me. I'd just managed to angle behind him when all of a sudden he did a complete U turn and nearly body checked me into the bus.

He garbled something at me in a foreign language that resembled anger and I just said "learn to look!" and rode away.

Every year here about 5 pedestrians get taken out by buses. None have been the drivers fault to date that I am aware.

 

[byegad]

Apparently you can walk across or along a road anywhere in the UK other than motorways. In the US this is considered jaywalking therefore illegal, the punishment depends on the colour of the offender.

Exactly. While enforcing your rights as a pedestrian could lead to a nasty accident there is no law against walking on/along/across the road, with the exception as mentioned above, and that had to be enforced by a new law when Motorways were first built. Sadly I'm old enough to remember this!

The USAish law, found in other countries too is different. Here we call people walking on the road pedestrians.

 

[jonny jeez]

No they are not, that's ridiculous.

Whilst I agree, factually they cannot possibly be. But I do understand the perception, I find traffic is a whole lot more predictable than us "unfettered humans". Especially when we isolate ourselves from reality with distractions like phones and headphones.

I also have a habit myself of listening for traffic before I look, meaning I get close to a kerb before I actually stop to look. I think people who don't ride often take that beyond the point of stopping ...and step out AS they look, which is always worrying to a rider.

 

[mustang1]

On an average ride pedestrians are a greater hazard for me than cars. They are so oblivious it's unreal and always the ones with their head down checking phone, with headphones in that don't see me. Strongly considering adding a bell to my bike although this would be a bit uncool.

Hope you heal well! Looks a sore one.

Add a some and horn that exclaims "look out sh1t head" every 10 seconds. No wait, that probably wouldn't work either. Those pedestrians are too busy ensuring they have the right music on their iPods for their measly 2 minute walk*

* exaggeration pending.