Jaywalkers ( or whatever there called in the uk)

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mcshroom

Bionic Subsonic
As an advocate of presumed liability, I can't see the problem. The faster more dangerous mode of transport should always defer to the more vulnerable. Now we just need to sort the bullies in tin boxes out with that.
 

itsbruce

Lavender Bike Menace
As an advocate of presumed liability, I can't see the problem. The faster more dangerous mode of transport should always defer to the more vulnerable. Now we just need to sort the bullies in tin boxes out with that.
This. And I speak as somebody currently sporting a cast on his arm because of a ped (whom I did *not* hit) sprinting into the road. Cyclists are a bigger threat to peds than the other way round. It's a bit depressing that pedestrians in London have become quite nervous of cyclists and are gratefully surprised when you give them their due priority on a Zebra crossing.

Of course, it's annoying when pedestrians tune us out the same way drivers do. They look at us, look through us, step out into the road anyway. But we have the advantage.
 

Kempston

Active Member
In my experience as both a 'ped' and a cyclist, as a collective they're both as bad as each other. Too many cyclist don't give a s**t about red lights and crossings (I have nearly been killed more than once by some ignorant moron on a bike who thinks the red light didn't apply to him) and too many pedestrians don't pay enough attention when crossing or walking on the road when they shouldn't.
 

w00hoo_kent

One of the 64K
I've always been quite partial to pedlemmings. But yes, you just have to take care around them and presume vehicles you can't see through (buses, vans, etc) might have one step out from the edge of them at any moment,
 
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