La Vuelta SPOILERS.

[hoopdriver]

2005 - when he felt sorry for people who do not believe in miracles

Yes but returning in 2009, to feed his ego, didn't turn out so well for him did it? It opened a whole new can of worms and restarted the statute of limitations on his old doings. Had he just left well enough alone he couldn't have been touched and his 'legacy', such as it was, would have remained intact. Instead it led to a whole raft of lawsuits and investigations and his come-to-Jesus moment on Oprah...

 

[Eziemnaik]

Movistar does not look like the old disfuncional Movistar anymore
Roglic getting another bonus
Great stage again

 

[Eziemnaik]

Yes but returning in 2009, to feed his ego, didn't turn out so well for him did it? It opened a whole new can of worms and restarted the statute of limitations on his old doings. Had he just left well enough alone he couldn't have been touched and his 'legacy', such as it was, would have remained intact. Instead it led to a whole raft of lawsuits and investigations and his come-to-Jesus moment on Oprah...

Of course it did not
In Armstrong's lie he admitted regret about his farewell tour precisely because of that

 

[MasterDabber]

So if the Giro can't venture into France how is the Veulta able to go into France for the Aubisque and Touramalet....watch this space.

 

[Adam4868]

Movistar does not look like the old disfuncional Movistar anymore
Roglic getting another bonus
Great stage again

You didn't watch the Giro then

 

[Adam4868]

Just read that Soler was told by DS to drop back and help Mas and Valverde....
No brakes sorry boss 😬

 

[Grant Fondo]

All this mix of Giro and Vuelta, I don't know my 'Cabeza de Carrera' (aren't they £299 at Halfords?) from my 'Race leader' as it weirdly says on Eurosport Giro coverage.

Do all Italians now speak English or what?

 

[Eziemnaik]

Valverde is a sacred cow in Movistar and in general in Spain. You might find people mentioning Contador's special steaks, no one ever says anything about Valverde.

 

[mjr]

Not sure what Amador and Carapaz were up to on the run in. Weird.

Losing a few more seconds to their rivals needlessly.

 

[BalkanExpress]

As an eternal optimist, I am assuming that Froome is “doing a Poels” and will be leading the train in the third week

 

[Dave Davenport]

Been away for the last week so only caught the Eurosport coverage for the first time today, who let that knobber Kirby near a GT again?

 

[beastie]

Been away for the last week so only caught the Eurosport coverage for the first time today, who let that knobber Kirby near a GT again?

God he is truly awful! Rob Hatch has got progressively worse since lockdown finished as well....far too much hyperbole, or “hyperbowl” as one of my Colleagues thinks it’s pronounced!
ITV is generally more bearable, although Boulting was a better commentator when he knew less about cycling. He knew less so talked less.
I wish all of them would sometimes just let the pictures speak for themselves. If there is nowt doing in the race then it would be nice for the commentary to STFU now and again!!!!🤫🤫🤫

 

[matticus]

I reckon he has earned a bit of slack from Ineos don’t you..?
Let’s see how he goes in the last week, if he gets that far.

I did NOT say otherwise!!!

I was ONLY commenting on the suggestion that he is there for training!!!

Please read what I wrote, without putting words in my mouth. x

 

[Adam4868]

I think a significant factor in his presence is just his star quality. He's Ineos' star, and even if he has only one leg, he gets coverage and he's a story. For instance, Radio 5 mentioned the Vuelta in passing this morning, which is unusual - but only to comment on Froome. So non-cycling fans get to be reminded of Ineos. And cycling fans like to chew the fat about his inclusion, as we are doing now.

So the "soap opera" aspect and PR considerations may be at play. Plus sporting consideration that he could be a handy domestique capable of putting in key efforts even if he explodes afterwards.

I like him and I'm sick of fecking hearing about him allready He'll come good.
More shocking is that Dumoulin lost over 8 mins yesterday...

 

[Eziemnaik]

Jumbo train seems to be a shade of TDF...
So far both Movistar and Ineos seemed more consistent and organised
Roglic is in a good form, and seems to have completely shaken any lingering hangover from that TT, but he will not have as much support as in France
Again, yesterday's Movistar tactic worked almost perfectly, isolating at some point both Roglic and Carapaz