Smokin Joe said:On the second page...
"The United States Anti-Doping Authority has taken a different line and appointed the federal investigator Jeff Novitzky to the case. Landis and Armstrong’s former wife are understood to be co-operating".
eldudino said:A separate fridge, I would expect LA to have a pretty slick kitchen and not a separate wee fridge hanging around somewhere.
trustysteed said:I am an unashamed Lance fan and I will be gutted if it turns out he has been doping all along. What has struck me with all the dopers that have been caught, is that they have all been pretty much completely self-serving. I find it hard to believe that someone who has put together such a great cancer foundation to help other people would do that. So, until there's definitive proof, I shall continue to admire, support and believe in Lance who is still one of my sporting heroes along with Ayrton Senna.
GregCollins said:But, as in all matters relating to the Tour, you're innocent until proven guilty unless you are an American.
The doping that went on before epo was invented was on a small scale and seems almost innocent these days. They were taking amphetamines and the like, which is only what rock-stars take to stay awake whilst on tour. I've not long finished reading Fignon's autobiography which was a bit of an eye opener. He first took amphetamines while riding a six day track event, where the conditions for the riders were pretty primitive, with a mattress on the floor for sleeping and a communal "bucket on the floor to p ss in", after a couple of days he was so tired through lack of sleep that someone gave him some pills to pop so he could finish the event. Personally I can forgive anyone in that era doing that, although technically forbiden, it's hardly a crime against humanity, but systematic blood doping has taken peds to a completely different level imo. Epo was just being introduced into the peloton when Fignon was about to retire, and he was offered some, while riding riding for the Italian Gatorade team, but refused.trustysteed said:and why do people keep saying eddie merckx is the greatest rider ever yet he doped with the rest of them in his career?
Flying_Monkey said:Greg, this is a load of balls. And you appear not to have read anything in this thread or anywhere else about this as you are pretty much repeating what you wrote earlier.
Flying_Monkey said:Armstrong is, by a lot of accounts, a pretty merciless and unpleasant character.