Landis 'fesses up?!

ChrisKH

Veteran
Location
Essex
Yes, there's another post with a link on here somewhere.
 
Road.cc and Cycling News both have it.

None of this will come as any surprise to many of us and my best guess is that Teflon Tex won't give a stuff. Nor will the fan-boys, race organisers or UCI. Landis is too easy to discredit, he's left it waaaaaaaaaayyyyy too late and he'll need cast iron evidence to make anything stick.

The only concern I have is that Bruyneel won't be sanctioned (a life ban would be appropriate) and that Zabriskie has been implicated. I'd like to hear the truth from him, especially given who he rides for these days.
 

Tim Bennet.

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I agree; too little - too late.

I think I believe every word, but 'the LA/cycling/sporting world at large' will dismiss it as the vindictive sour grapes of a bitter has-been, who's using his last gasp of publicity to reek revenge on his 'friends', before he sinks totally into the bottomless pit of obscurity.
 
Road.cc report has more detail.

Landis says he has no proof, other than his own training diaries. Oddly enough, I think this is about the first time he's told the truth since 2006. Shame he's f*cked up any chance of being taken seriously by bullshitting for the last four years...:smile:
 

raindog

er.....
Location
France
This proves, if proof were needed, what a lying b stard he's been all these years. It looks as if it might just be his word against the others, but even so, this is a BIG one. Difficult to see how Prudhomme can accept Radio Shack for the Tour now.

I wonder what his motivation is? Maybe he was he offered money to keep quite and the cheque never arrived? :smile:
 

Skip Madness

New Member
Although no source has been given nor its veracity confirmed, on the Cycling News forums blackcat posted this, which looks pretty legit with quotes that corroborate those found in the press articles:
2002: I was instructed on how to use Testosterone patches by Johan Bruyneel
during the During the Dauphine Libere in June, after which I flew on a
helicopter with Mr Armstrong from the finish, I believe Grenoble, to San
Mauritz Switzerland at which point I was personally handed a box of 2.5 mg
patches in front of his wife who witnessed the exchange. About a week
later, Dr Ferrari performed an extraction of half a liter of blood to be
transfused back into me during the Tour de France. Mr Armstrong was not
witness to the extraction but he and I had lengthy discussions about it on
our training rides during which time he also explained to me the evolution
of EPO testing and how transfusions were now necessary due to the
inconvenience of the new test. He also divulged to me at that time that in
the first year that the EPO test was used he had been told by Mr Ferrari,
who had access to the new test, that he should not use EPO anymore but he
did not believe Mr Farrari and contin
ued to use it. He later, while winning the Tour de Swiss, the month before
the Tour de France, tested positive for EPO at which point he and Mr
Bruyneel flew to the UCI headquarters and made a financial agreement with
Mr. Vrubrugen to keep the positive test hidden.

2003: After a broken hip in the winter, I flew to Gerona Spain where this
time two units (half a liter each) were extracted three weeks apart. This
took place in the apartment in which Mr. Armstrong lived and in which I was
asked to stay and check the blood temperature every day. It was kept in a
small refrigerator in the closet allong with the blood of Mr Armstrong and
George Hincapie and since Mr. Armstrong was planning on being gone for a few
weeks to train he asked me to stay in his place and make sure the
electricity didn't turn off or something go wrong with the referigerator.
Then during the Tour de France the entire team, on two different occasions
went to the room that we were told and the doctor met us there to do the
transfusions. During that Tour de France I personally witnessed George
Hincapie, Lance Armstrong, Chechu Rubiera, and myself receiving blood
transfusions. Also during that Tour de France the team doctor would give my
room mate, George Hincapie an
d I a small syringe of olive oil in which was disolved andriol, a form of
ingestible testosterone on two out of three nights throughout the duration.

I was asked to ride the Vuelta a Espana that year in support of Roberto
Heras and in August, between the Tour and the Vuelta, was told to take EPO
to raise my hematocrit back up so more blood transfusions could be
performed. I was instructed to go to Lances place by Johan Bruyneel and get
some EPO from him. The first EPO I ever used was then handed to me in the
entry way to his building in full view of his then wife. It was Eprex by
brand and it came in six pre measured syringes. I used it intravenously for
several weeks before the next blood draw and had no problems with the tests
during the Vuelta. Also during this time it was explained to me how to use
Human Growth Hormone by Johan Bruyneel and I bought what I needed from Pepe
the team "trainer" who lived in Valencia along with the team doctor at that
time. While training for that Vuelta I spent a good deal of time training
with Matthew White and Michael Barry and shared the testosterone and EPO
that we had and discu
ssed the use thereof while training.

Again, during the Vuelta we were given Andriol and blood transfusions by the
team doctor and had no problems with any testing.

2004: Again the team performed two seperate blood transfusions on me, but
this time Bruyneel had become more paranoid and we did the draws by flying
to Belgium and meeting at an unknown persons appartment and the blood was
brought by "Duffy" who was at that time Johans assistant of sorts. The
second of which was performed on the team bus on the ride from the finish of
a stage to the hotel during which the driver pretended to have engine
trouble and stopped on a remote mountain road for an hour or so so the
entire team could have half a liter of blood added. This was the only time
that I ever saw the entire team being transfused in plain view of all the
other riders and bus driver. That team included Lance Armstrong, George
Hincapie and I as the only Americans.

2005: I had learned at this point how to do most of the transfusion
technicals and other things on my own so I hired Allen Lim as my assistant
to help with details and logistics. He helped Levi Leipheimer and I prepare
the transfusions for Levi and I and made sure they were kept at the proper
temperature. We both did two seperate transfusions that Tour however my
hematocrit was too low at the start so I did my first one a few days before
the start so as to not start with a deficit.

2006: Well you get the idea....... One thing of great signigicance is that
I sat down with Andy Riis and explained to him what was done in the past and
what was the risk I would be taking and ask for his permission which he
granted in the form of funds to complete the operation described. John
Lelangue was also informed by me and Andy Riis consulted with Jim Ochowitz
before agreeing.

There are many many more details that I have in diaries and am in the
process of writing into an intelligible story but since the position of USA
Cycling is that there have not been enough details shared to justify calling
USADA, I am writing as many as I can reasonably put into an email and share
with you so as to ascertain what is the process which USA Cycling uses to
proceed with such allegations.

Look forward to much more detail as soon as you can demonstrate that you can
be trusted to do the right thing.

Floyd Landis
On the one hand, if he's being honest about things then he's doing the right thing. On the other hand, he really ought to have down the right thing years ago instead of setting up the Floyd Fairness Fund...
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
It makes you wonder that he frittered away his fortune trying to prove himself innocent when he knew he could never do that:wacko:

I'm sure that it's all true though. Levi was caught way back when. Remember George shooting up to that mountain top stage win in the TdF.
As for LA don't get me started......
I'd love to see that slime ball Bruyneel nailed but without evidence this is not going to stick unless it persuades a few of the others to come out.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
This bit implicates Andy Rhis, the formerowner of Phonak and owner of BMC who supposedly closed them down due to drug positives! The world's gone mad.



In the email sent on April 30 to Mr. Johnson, Mr. Landis said that in 2006, after leaving the U.S. Postal Service team for a team sponsored by Swiss hearing aide manufacturer Phonak, he said he told Andy Rihs, the team's owner, that he had been involved in a blood doping program in the past with his old team and wanted to continue doing so with Phonak. He said Mr. Rihs, who is the chairman of Sonova Holding AG, the Switzerland-based parent company for Phonak, agreed to pay for the same doping operations at Phonak. After Mr. Landis's positive test—which was for testosterone and not blood doping—the team disbanded in 2006. Mr. Rihs and a Sonova spokesman could not be reached for comment.
 

Sysagent

"The Most Annoying Man In The World."
Reason he has come "clean" (no pun intended) is that he assumed (wrongly or rightly) that he would get invited to JB and Pharmstrongs new chemical tour de force Radioshack, this didn't happen, he gets bitter and twisted like you do...

Imagine being dumped by your girlfriend because she wants to go out with a new bunch of younger more exciting people.

BUT

You have a load of dodgy intimate videos and photos of her and you, so what happens, the hate simmers and then boils, what do you do, well of course you get the dodgy stuff out and issue payback time don't you.

Also you have got to remember that Floyd is from a quiet religous Mennonitefarming boy background, imagine what's being going on up there in his head for all these years, he must have been turning himself inside out with it all.This could be quite possibly the best thing to happen to the professional cycling sport in decades in my opinion, well done on Floyd on having the balls to do it...

But of course all of what he is saying will have to be proved and we know the size of Pharmtstrongs empire, imagine the legal back-up he will have.

Also where does this leave Vaughters with having DZ on his "clean" team and Vaughters also being part of the US Postal team in the early eighties?

And also what about the American public who were paying for these pro-riders to dope under the US Postal banner?
 
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