BlackPanther
Hyper-Fast Recumbent Riding Member.
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- Doncaster.
I don't know if these have been covered, but I like the idea of laser marking an area around the bike!
Slancio laser lights
Slancio laser lights
Laser lights.
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BlackPanther
Hyper-Fast Recumbent Riding Member.
- Location
- Doncaster.
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Define irony:
I'd rather motorists look at me rather then some light on the ground.
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Ah, then you'll be wanting something like the Proviz Electroluminescent hiviz vest to wear then? My link I did, I did, and I do. The fact that the strips are blue really make it stand out amongst all the white/red lights of the other traffic....even better on the rural unlit roads.
Define irony:
I'd rather motorists look at me rather then some light on the ground.
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Ah, then you'll be wanting something like the Proviz Electroluminescent hiviz vest to wear then? My link I did, I did, and I do. The fact that the strips are blue really make it stand out amongst all the white/red lights of the other traffic....even better on the rural unlit roads.
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
Why do i need a cycle lane behind me?
Why do I need a cycle lane which is too narrow?
Why do I need a cycle lane which is too narrow?
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BlackPanther
Hyper-Fast Recumbent Riding Member.
- Location
- Doncaster.
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Er no.
I'd had lights on the bike for sure. But I'd rather maintain sound visual checks on what the traffic around me is doing rather then wearing some sort of dork vest - no offence.
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I pass several riders every morning with no lights, dressed in black, no helmet, and a complete disregard for red lights, lanes, life saver checks etc etc.
One thing's for sure, hiviz cannot make you less visible, but it's each to their own where risk is concerned. For example, I listen to music/podcasts (on quiet) whilst riding, which I accept is a slight distraction, but some folk think this is outrageous.
Re the laser light, yup it's o.t.t. but then again it's unusual, and anything unusual gets drivers attention. I bet if Kylie Minogue cycled naked on a recumbent bike towing a trailer loaded with a cement mixer.......she wouldn't get hit by a car.
Er no.
I'd had lights on the bike for sure. But I'd rather maintain sound visual checks on what the traffic around me is doing rather then wearing some sort of dork vest - no offence.
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I pass several riders every morning with no lights, dressed in black, no helmet, and a complete disregard for red lights, lanes, life saver checks etc etc.
One thing's for sure, hiviz cannot make you less visible, but it's each to their own where risk is concerned. For example, I listen to music/podcasts (on quiet) whilst riding, which I accept is a slight distraction, but some folk think this is outrageous.
Re the laser light, yup it's o.t.t. but then again it's unusual, and anything unusual gets drivers attention. I bet if Kylie Minogue cycled naked on a recumbent bike towing a trailer loaded with a cement mixer.......she wouldn't get hit by a car.
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BlackPanther
Hyper-Fast Recumbent Riding Member.
- Location
- Doncaster.
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I'm saying that sound (and basic) visual checks should be at the top of every cyclists defensive riding skills. And that this should not be substituted with laser lights, or some flashy flash vest.
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Re the checks, I agree 100%. It's frightening how few drivers do any kind of checks before changing lanes etc. As a cyclist/motorcyclist and lgv driver I'd like to think I'm well above average in the observation stakes, and always do a 'lifesaver' check. It's a pity that driving instructors (for cars) don't drill it into their students like motorbike/lgv instructors do.
Over the years I've changed my mind about hiviz. I used to be a 'it's health and safety gone mad' kind of guy, but now whenever I'm opening the side curtains on my lorry in heavy traffic, I'm glad I wear the old hiviz vest.They simply cannot do any harm, but do make you more visible.
I'm saying that sound (and basic) visual checks should be at the top of every cyclists defensive riding skills. And that this should not be substituted with laser lights, or some flashy flash vest.
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Re the checks, I agree 100%. It's frightening how few drivers do any kind of checks before changing lanes etc. As a cyclist/motorcyclist and lgv driver I'd like to think I'm well above average in the observation stakes, and always do a 'lifesaver' check. It's a pity that driving instructors (for cars) don't drill it into their students like motorbike/lgv instructors do.
Over the years I've changed my mind about hiviz. I used to be a 'it's health and safety gone mad' kind of guy, but now whenever I'm opening the side curtains on my lorry in heavy traffic, I'm glad I wear the old hiviz vest.They simply cannot do any harm, but do make you more visible.
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Please say this was due some novelty factor that you get on the FNRttC, rather then an actual safety measure.
Heaven forbid, sound visual checking is replaced by some laser on the ground. Yes, one might argue that it supplements this, but they are still crap imo.
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As to the novelty factor I will let Tim answer that. But to be honest I think as a visibility aid to drivers I don't think they really work that well.
Please say this was due some novelty factor that you get on the FNRttC, rather then an actual safety measure.
Heaven forbid, sound visual checking is replaced by some laser on the ground. Yes, one might argue that it supplements this, but they are still crap imo.
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As to the novelty factor I will let Tim answer that. But to be honest I think as a visibility aid to drivers I don't think they really work that well.
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
I pass several riders every morning with no lights, dressed in black, no helmet, and a complete disregard for red lights, lanes, life saver checks etc etc.
One thing's for sure, hiviz cannot make you less visible, but it's each to their own where risk is concerned. For example, I listen to music/podcasts (on quiet) whilst riding, which I accept is a slight distraction, but some folk think this is outrageous.
Re the laser light, yup it's o.t.t. but then again it's unusual, and anything unusual gets drivers attention. I bet if Kylie Minogue cycled naked on a recumbent bike towing a trailer loaded with a cement mixer.......she wouldn't get hit by a car.
The big myths in one section - Ipods, invisble Ninjas,helmets and HiViz.
All we need is the scurrilous and wayward activity of using a single pannier and w would have the complete set
There is actually no evidence that these exist as a problem in reality.
If there was a problem with all of this then we should see fluctuations during the year to reflect this. Even allowing for decreasing numbers, there is no significant change in the accident rate, or time of accident throughout the year. As with helmets, HiViz is more of a perception as a safety aid then a real contribution.
CopperCyclist
Veteran
I would expect distracted driving to start with while they work out WTF it is followed by "its alright to pass close as long as my tyres don't cross the line"
If the line is 1.5m+ from the rider that wouldn't be a bad thing, would it?
That far out and drivers probably wouldn't associate it with the cyclist and will just ignore it. But its not at +1.5m anyway, its at handlebar width.
