Last night's ride - Lost my Cool

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BentMikey said:
Oh, no, I'm saying that ideally you'd already know what was behind the car as you'd have looked behind often before the incident even began. I don't think I'd expect anyone to be able to pay attention to much other than the idiot driver during the actual incident.

Even if you hadn't known what was behind, slowing down a little has got to be better than being alongside a fcukwit like this driver. You're not ordinarily bothered by slowing down and stopping for traffic lights with following traffic, why would you be bothered about slowing down here?

My only concern about slowing down gently is that the driver has shown how bad a driver he is, and by giving him a bit of space he might cut in too soon.

But, this is all supposition, and I agree (as I did at the start:smile:) that in theory and (although I didn't state this) and sometimes in practice slowing down would help. On this occasion I think I'd have to be there to know. As you know BM it is very different sitting here looking at the video and actually being there.
 

moia

Senior Member
Location
sowerby bridge
i reckon go for the police - i'm taking the view point that the more we report these drivers the more they will be held accountable for their actions (maybe one day?) and if not it's adding a voice to the dangerous anti cycling actions of these bastard drivers. it's a hassle, but these drivers need to be dealt with somehow. (i reported one instance by phone but was told to go to the station to make a statement which i haven't had time to do)

i've just come back from belgium where cycling feels so much safer - apparently drivers have the possibility of losing their licence if they hit a cyclist - and cos so many more people cycle, maybe drivers have a bit of sympathy/ empathy??
 
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thomas

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
moia said:
i reckon go for the police - i'm taking the view point that the more we report these drivers the more they will be held accountable for their actions (maybe one day?) and if not it's adding a voice to the dangerous anti cycling actions of these bastard drivers. it's a hassle, but these drivers need to be dealt with somehow. (i reported one instance by phone but was told to go to the station to make a statement which i haven't had time to do)

i've just come back from belgium where cycling feels so much safer - apparently drivers have the possibility of losing their licence if they hit a cyclist - and cos so many more people cycle, maybe drivers have a bit of sympathy/ empathy??

I went in today, but didn't have the right numberplate...


http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=980502&postcount=52
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
magnatom said:
My only concern about slowing down gently is that the driver has shown how bad a driver he is, and by giving him a bit of space he might cut in too soon.

I might have said breathe on the brakes, but that doesn't mean it will make a gentle difference. That's all that'd be required for the car to relatively leap ahead. You'd get a split in almost the blink of an eye at the speed thomas and car were doing. I'll say it again: There will be no danger at all from the car cutting in, whilst there is a substantial risk in continuing with the car next to you and the driver demonstrably misbehaving.

Given thomas's nearly into the back of the turning car in front, and the ease of getting away from the driver next to him by braking, it should be very obvious in hindsight that braking is the right move. I should also point out that this is all only in hindsight, and only intended in getting a preplanned and prepared strategy ready for next time. It would be quite hard to do better than thomas did at the time without the aforethought of a debate like this.

I'm still slightly flabbergasted that you should try to justify not braking by the behaviour of an (unknown if actually there) car behind. I think there's probably some sort of polarisation and defensiveness coming from you and thomas. Pity really, because it's getting in the way of truth.
 
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thomas

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
BentMikey said:
I'm still slightly flabbergasted that you should try to justify not braking by the behaviour of an (unknown if actually there) car behind. I think there's probably some sort of polarisation and defensiveness coming from you and thomas. Pity really, because it's getting in the way of truth.

Mikey, what you need to remember is that, I didn't get hurt or get knocked off. I got put in a very dangerous situation but I did not get hurt.

Now, if I had reacted differently the outcome could have been completely different. Surely, we can agree, the right outcome is the one when you come out alive and well.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Sh4rkyBloke said:
He *could* have simply braked and dropped back behind the moron in the car... but why should he have to?
Because he'll live longer if he does.

I agree with everyone that it was dangerous driving on the part of the motorist, but in my view once you know you have a dangerous driver alongside you, top priority is to get yourself out of the danger zone. Braking would have been the simplest way to achieve this.
 
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