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Pauluk

Senior Member
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sorry bad taste
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
An emoticon makes this a reasonable response, I don't think so.
Well I do think so. There are two ways in which the emoticon could have been taken: 1) as a sign of insult and mock with a smile being beside a rude comment. or 2) a sarcastic comment which we all know is just a joke.
If he had not put the smile then I would have commented along the lines of "Go sod off yourself".

Hennbell, you are now causing a problem when there wasnt one. Why are you doing this?
 
Hennbell, you are now causing a problem when there wasnt one. Why are you doing this?

He was actually backing you up, suggesting we treat any person at the other end of the internet with respect.

Personally I think respect is earned though, so feel free to disrespect me.
 

Recycler

Well-Known Member
Mathew,

FWIW this forum is a lot more friendly than some. I post quite a bit on another (non cycling) forum and some of the arguments that I've seen there are far, far more heated then anything I've seen here........but there is also a lot of good, useful help, advice and information; just like here.
Just ignore the postings that appear to be getting at you. It's usually not meant to be unpleasant but is just the kind of thing that, when said in the pub, would be laughed off and forgotten about before the next round.
 

400bhp

Guru
If you post up videos where you are openly criticising a car driver, then you have to expect your videos to be disected. Indeed, the car driver is more likely to be identified than yourself.

It's the internet, no-one knows you personally therefore by definition don't take things personally. :thumbsup:

You're a young lad-you make more mistakes than most of us (generally less mistakes are related with age). I personally think you should ditch the camera, if only for a while. Perhaps post back on your experience of being camera free.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
He was actually backing you up, suggesting we treat any person at the other end of the internet with respect.

Personally I think respect is earned though, so feel free to disrespect me.
I got a little bit confused with his post. He stated that an emoticon makes the post reasonable and yet he cotradicted himself by saying that he didnt agree with it. It was a little bit odd.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
I personally think you should ditch the camera, if only for a while. Perhaps post back on your experience of being camera free.
Or just not post trivial things where there is even a glimpse that I did something wrong and wait until I am involved in a more serious incident (touch wood) where I know I couldnt have improved any more.
 
Well I do think so. There are two ways in which the emoticon could have been taken: 1) as a sign of insult and mock with a smile being beside a rude comment. or 2) a sarcastic comment which we all know is just a joke.
If he had not put the smile then I would have commented along the lines of "Go sod off yourself".

Hennbell, you are now causing a problem when there wasnt one. Why are you doing this?

It is impossible to determine sarcasm or "if a person is joking" in typed material. So the way a message is received is purely dependent on the reader. What I might interpret as a joke another person may see as a slight..

If I was to let go with a racial slur would a simple emoticon at the end convey that I was just "havin a laugh", I don't think so.:banghead:

As for the notion that respect is to be earned, I agree with that. When you initially meet a stranger you have the chance to give them the once over a based upon circumstances determine the inappropriate level of respect they deserve, that is very hard to assess online.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
It is impossible to determine sarcasm or "if a person is joking" in typed material. So the way a message is received is purely dependent on the reader. What I might interpret as a joke another person may see as a slight..True

If I was to let go with a racial slur would a simple emoticon at the end convey that I was just "havin a laugh", I don't think so.:banghead:True

As for the notion that respect is to be earned, I agree with that. When you initially meet a stranger you have the chance to give them the once over a based upon circumstances determine the inappropriate level of respect they deserve, that is very hard to assess online. True
I think that first impressions are the things that I normally get wrong. As a part of my personality, I take great delight in monitoring peoples behaviour and acting upon it. It is a way for me to decide who is worth befriending and who is to be avoided. It has worked for me so far in face-to-face situations. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to use this technique online when I only have peoples comments to go by. Therefore, when someone makes a comment which I deem to be nasty, it might have been used as a joke, and vice versa.

As I used to get bullied at school a lot, I have taught myself to be very wary of people who I first meet as I dont know what they are like. As a result of this, I normally look further into peoples personalities and pick up on the smaller things that make them who they are.

That is why when I am on the roads, I normally only see the nastiness in people and dont get a chance to see what they are really like. Unfortunately, I am quick to act on first impressions and that is why I retaliate in such an agressive manner.
It is the same when someone comments on here, if they are agressive and insulting, then I will only see them as that and act responsively.

I am not saying that I want people to change their views or not say anything, just think a little bit more about how someone might take you comment if you do not make it clear what you mean. I have misread so many comments on here and then had to stand my ground whilst I am hounded by people to explain myself.
 

marzjennings

Legendary Member
I am starting to get tired of people on here being obnoxious and insulting towards me. I come on here to have a friendly chat about things which I and other people have an interest in. I do not intend to be having disputes with people critisizing my cycling style and how I have acted in situations.

I encourage polite critisizm and feedback from incidents as I often take these pointers on board as I want to improve my riding style, but there is a difference between feedback and rudeness. It is ruining my thoughts of CycleChat and ruining other peoples threads.

When I first came across this website, I was intrigued and took great delight in reading and commenting on other peoples posts. I learnt new things and skills which have helped me overcome problems which I have encountered. But when I started posting videos and asking for people views on the situation, I was bombarded with quiries and insults regards 'what I did wrong' and that 'I caused a problem'. I dont mind people pointing out my errors, but it gets obnoxious when people say that 'I keep causing problems' and 'I am confrontational'.

I would like to enjoy thiis site for what it is mean for 'CycleChat' or chatting about topics relating to cycling. I dont want to come on here and feel as if I am being bullied by people who dont know me or who I am and are just making presumptions based on what I say or do. It is starting to get old.

What, are you new to the web? People emboldened by anonymity will type things in a chatroom they would never say in person to someone's face. People will attempt to be short and accurate in their responses, which will often read as brusque or rude.

You need to learn to take internet and chatroom comment with a grain of salt. We are mostly strangers attempting to communicate like long term friends and will often use phases and words that have different meaning's to others. This is not a polite debate club.
 
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