Let's talk diesel sensibly.

[Piemaster]

I think we can agree that pollution levels are likely to be higher in London than they are in Capel Curig. Ironically, pollution levels in London were probably worse in the early/mid 20th century than they are now - although some of the pollutants may be different.

Meanwhile, here's a gratuitous vid of the greatest diesel engine ever built -


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNE3-dg0Bc

Sorry, OT. Not a marine engine.
This is a marine engine

 

[S-Express]

Sorry, OT. Not a marine engine.

Never said it was a marine engine. I simply said it was the greatest diesel ever built (IMO).

 

[User482]

I don't need an excuse. Today, they are picking on diesel, tomorrow petrol and what next? It is hypocritical to me that the big boys can pollute to their heart's content without anything being said or mentioned. As usual, money is king.

If you don't care then why are you whining about it?

 

[MarquisMatsugae]

Every little helps. Go for a run in say North Wales then do the same in London, blow your nose and view the difference in the colour of the stuff that comes out, horrible I know.

Puke came out my nose once drinking Wrexham Lager.

 

[Brandane]

Those 15 ships pollute as much as 760 million cars!

I love these bollox statistics. You could also say that 1 ship pollutes more than 1 billion cars - just as long as the cars have their engines switched off.

 

[screenman]

I love these bollox statistics. You could also say that 1 ship pollutes more than 1 billion cars - just as long as the cars have their engines switched off.

I think that would be two billion.

 

[Brandane]

I think that would be two billion.

But then some pedant would have posted that there aren't that many cars on the planet.
It was 1.2 billion in 2014, estimated to reach 2 billion by 2035. Look at me, getting all SCP!

 

[Slick]

I don't need an excuse. Today, they are picking on diesel, tomorrow petrol and what next? It is hypocritical to me that the big boys can pollute to their heart's content without anything being said or mentioned. As usual, money is king.

I do sympathise, I really do. I ran trucks in a previous life, and spent a pretty penny on ad blu and other emission reducing fallacies. I still run a Jag XF and a Corsa van, both diesel, but I think the time has come to admit that there is an issue and move on. I was planning trying to trade the Jag in before the bottom totally falls out the diesel market.

 

[Levo-Lon]

I used to live 25 yards from the main inter city line Peterborough London in the days of the Deltic train..holy oily windows bat man...great train ..great noise...But....

i just bought a 1248cc derv van..fook em 65 mpg and 90bhp , who cares..

maybe one day when we finally realize that oil and greedy govt's are the enemy we will get the cars and transport that will save the planet....lol ..

 

[Drago]

There's lots of talk of trains, trucks, container ships being bad for our health.

Trucks are facing ever tightening emissions controls too, and it won't be long before diesel trucks will be banned from town centres.

Rail is slowly being electrified.

Ships tend to not drive up the high street, so present less of a concern for immediate health problem through particulate ingestion.

Diesel is more of a concern to respiratory and circulatory health, it's CO2 benefits for diesel road transport barely exist at all outside of a laboratory, the figures simply not being achievable in 'real world' use. It's time has come, and it looks set to be dead before petrol. Petrol doubtless won't be far behind, although there have in recent years been some breakthroughs in our understanding of combustion physics which may extend petrol life a little longer, particularly in hybrids.

Get over it. Starting similar threads ad nauseum won't change it Gavroche. We're very sorry if you just spent loads on a new diesel, but you're backing the wrong horse.

 

[CanucksTraveller]

i just bought a 1248cc derv van..fook em 65 mpg and 90bhp , who cares....

Yep. That's the spirit. Fook em eh?

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

I love my diesel estate. Drove 550 miles back from my parent's house on a single tank and still had fuel to spare. That was mostly at 70 mph and with two bikes on the back. Averages about 65mpg most journeys.

 

[galaxy]

We all polute when we drive, and yes the Goverment use it as a excuse to stealth tax us, but what they do not do is offer enough insentive to use alternative modes of transport.

 

[Brandane]

We all polute when we drive, and yes the Goverment use it as a excuse to stealth tax us, but what they do not do is offer enough insentive to use alternative modes of transport.

Always the stick; never the carrot.

 

[screenman]

If we did not pay tax, who would pay the nurses.