Lights during daylight hours

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Following an incident this morning...


What is it about the new evangelism for daytime lighting on bikes?
 
It's the same logic that has seen (pardon the pun) motorbikes have their lights on for years, and now all new cars have lights on - to make you stand out. Of course if everyone does it, it does tend to negate the effect.

Having said that, a decent flashing rear light does make you stand out from behind if you're the only cyclist around and you're out in the open with not much traffic around.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
if it's raining of foggy I do but otherwise I don't.... but cycling 'round these parts aint like cycling in a proper city. If my commute took me through central manchester then i probably would.
 
I like to give drivers an extra clue they share the road with me.

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snorri

Legendary Member
Daytime lights on moving vehicles* are just an annoying distraction, they would be better placed in potholes where they might do some good:angry:.

* I make an exception for flashing rear lights on bicycles:smile:.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
There's no evidence that daytime light usage - poor weather reduced visibility notwithstanding, when you'd have headlights on anyway - has a positive safety effect in anything other than a sub-arctic climate, such as the Northern Scandinavian countries.

Therefore, the laws that compel new cars and motorcycles to have them in the UK is not based upon any logic whatsoever.
 

PaulSecteur

No longer a Specialized fanboy
I usually have a flashing rear light on.

Sometimes, even on bright days its easy to to loose sight of a cyclist in high contrast situations, such as being in the shadows of overhanging trees on a very bright background.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
In urban riding, it probably makes little difference, but as I have a SON hub dynamo on the Brompton, there's no downside to leaving the lights on all the time (SON claims 4% drag with lights on vs 1% with lights off, but I can't detect the difference).

On rural roads, where I may have traffic approaching at 60mph plus, I want them to see me as far ahead as possible, so have Dinottes in strobe mode front and rear (amber to rear). They make a huge difference.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
I'm a terrible daytime flasher. I don't think it's done me any harm, nor anybody else. It's the ''anybody else'' part which is important. In a battle for the most visible bikes simply can't win. In a battle for inattentive road users with all the lights they could ever wish for, well, that's a different matter. If I ever felt my luminescence had endangered another cyclist or pedestrian, I'd have a rethink. Ain't happened yet.
 

Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
Flashing rear for me on country roads hereabouts, especially when riding towards a setting sun. Probably makes no difference but makes me feel better.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I go by the data. If the ambient lighting, or weather induced visibility is such I would activate my cars headlamps then I would activate my bicycles lights. If it ain't, I don't.
 
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