Lightweight 34-38c folding Road tyre suggestions……

[Animo]

On the rims you're getting the 32mm tyres will probably blow out to about 33-34 anyway and will be better in crosswinds. Also more aero.

 

[sevenfourate]

Just looked back at the OP's wheel thread to check the rims he's getting and would have to agree with this - those rims will pair up perfectly with 32mm non-tubeless Contis.

I know the whole point of this inquiry is to have 34/35mm tyres, but how 'lush feeling' the tyres are does depend quite considerably on the suppleness of the tyre, not just the width. So a relatively supple tyre, such as a GP5000, in 32mm, might still be a good bit better than what you have on the Trek Hybrid at the moment, depending on what those are. I only mention this since tubeless ready GP5000s in 35mm are a good bit more expensive than 'normal', non-tubeless GP5000s in 32mm, and especially so when Sigma Sports currently have the 32mm, non-tubeless version available at a large discount, making them a 'mere' £53 each.

As above, tyres are probably the most important part of your bike, so spending there is a good plan, and certainly so if you're getting new wheels. The tyres will make far more difference to how the bike rides than the new wheels, though the wheels will look pretty :-)

Clincher 32’s ordered.

Thank you very much for your expertise guys 🙏

 

[Animo]

Now don't forget you're going to need some TPUs with long valves...

 

[sevenfourate]

Now don't forget you're going to need some TPUs with long valves...

Also purchased 👍

Same type / Brand as I’m running on the Trek - and was / am happy with. I’m told you need 20-25mm longer valve stems than wheel depth…..for easy inflation.

My rims are 50mm deep. So 80mm is the first longer length to cover that remit.

A genuine thanks for all your help. It’s been brilliant 😉

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

How about 40mm or 45mm Caracal Race tanwall, £43 each from Winstanleys?

They absolutely fly on tarmac and the extra volume helps our higher weight get comfort. I probably could go lower, but I'm using ~42PSI rear for ~112Kg total for me and GT Egrade Bolt gravel ebike on lanes using latex tube... I really ought to buy another 45mm for the front!

1.7-2.3" latex tubes aren't easy to source, I got one from Winstanleys for~£14, but apparently Tube King (never heard of them until recently) for ~£11 each.

Aero and rolling resistance trump weight unless going up sustained hills.👍

Oh just seen you have already pulled the trigger, enjoy! I'm going to try 2020 32mm gp5000 on my front Vel 50 RL on my Bolt soon.

 

[Webbo2]

Says who ?

You’ve not heard of high volume low pressure having lower RR in the real World ? Have you seen any of the CGN tests or otherwise ? Why are the TDF / Tour boys going rider…..?

Oh I’m going comfier on my Carbon rims alright. And likely ‘faster’…..😉


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK5KLvrzrb4

The last GCN video I watched on tyres they were saying 28mm is the fastest. This was when they were reviewing what the tour teams were using.
But if you are using Mountainbike bars on road bike clearly you are not bothered about speed.😏

 

[sevenfourate]

Aero and rolling resistance trump weight unless going up sustained hills.👍

Oh just seen you have already pulled the trigger, enjoy! I'm going to try 2020 32mm gp5000 on my front Vel 50 RL on my Bolt soon.

Thanks for the obvious care, research, thoughts etc. Much appreciated 😉

But yea - I got bullied 🤣 And IF the GP5000’s in 32mm are such a supple ride (Compared to the 32’s I have on my Trek) then all good.

Although of course I’m going to be riding a bike I’ve barely done any miles on, on my first Carbon rims - I’ve ever even tried - let alone owned. And on a completely new tyre. It’s going to impossible to know what is effecting what and which feels more or less different than before. Irrespective - hopefully the sum of the parts is good….

 

[sevenfourate]

The last GCN video I watched on tyres they were saying 28mm is the fastest. This was when they were reviewing what the tour teams were using.
But if you are using Mountainbike bars on road bike clearly you are not bothered about speed.😏

Not hugely. Building fitness and enjoyment is more me…..👍

 

[Rusty Nails]

The last GCN video I watched on tyres they were saying 28mm is the fastest. This was when they were reviewing what the tour teams were using.
But if you are using Mountainbike bars on road bike clearly you are not bothered about speed.😏

If someone is not actually racing against other riders why is speed so important?

On road rides, especially anything longer than an hour or two, you will never get the same conditions on two identical rides, so things like weather, winds, traffic have a big effect on the actual time. On different routes, even of the same length, the differences in times will be even greater.

The tour teams consist of racing snakes so will the sweet spot of 28mm be the same as that for a middle aged person of 80kg or more? (I don't know sevenfourate's age or weight so apologies if you are a racing snake).

 

[Webbo2]

If someone is not actually racing against other riders why is speed so important?

On road rides, especially anything longer than an hour or two, you will never get the same conditions on two identical rides, so things like weather, winds, traffic have a big effect on the actual time. On different routes, even of the same length, the differences in times will be even greater.

The tour teams consist of racing snakes so will the sweet spot of 28mm be the same as that for a middle aged person of 80kg or more? (I don't know sevenfourate's age or weight so apologies if you are a racing snake).

No I’m not a racing snake but I did race once and on 19mm tyres but I do like to push myself as I believe once you stop trying to challenge yourself its time to get out the bath chair.Also I’m aware that no two rides are the same.

 

[sevenfourate]

……will the sweet spot of 28mm be the same as that for a middle aged person of 80kg or more?

**Im in the ‘more’ category 😉 Suspect I was 80kg starting high school. I’m a tall, well built guy…..

……but I do like to push myself as I believe once you stop trying to challenge yourself its time to get out the bath chair.

Me too. And sometimes that involves speed per-se. And if do - I just end up comparing against myself on a likely slower: heavier and less aero bike than I potentially could. I’m never going to be the ultimate fastest or anything like…….

 

[Rusty Nails]

No I’m not a racing snake but I did race once and on 19mm tyres but I do like to push myself as I believe once you stop trying to challenge yourself its time to get out the bath chair.Also I’m aware that no two rides are the same.

I'm at the age that challenging myself means limiting the rate at which I lose my speed and getting up hills without pushing. The law of diminishing returns has definitely set in.

I have two bikes, a Genesis road bike on 28mm and a Genesis gravel bike on 32mm. Impossible to compare the times over my 20/25 miles because of changing road/weather conditions but I can see no appreciable difference between the two.

On a technical point is someone who gets a faster time because they have moved to better wheels/tyres/frame actually getting faster or do they have to stay on the same kit to see if it is they who have actually got faster and not the equipment?

 

[Rusty Nails]

**Im in the ‘more’ category 😉 Suspect I was 80kg starting high school. I’m a tall, well built guy…..



Me too. And sometimes that involves speed per-se. And if do - I just end up comparing against myself on a likely slower: heavier and less aero bike than I potentially could. I’m never going to be the ultimate fastest or anything like…….

At 66kg technically I'm nearer the racing snake size, but racing slow worm is a better analogy.

 

[Webbo2]

I'm at the age that challenging myself means limiting the rate at which I lose my speed and getting up hills without pushing. The law of diminishing returns has definitely set in.

I have two bikes, a Genesis road bike on 28mm and a Genesis gravel bike on 32mm. Impossible to compare the times over my 20/25 miles because of changing road/weather conditions but I can see no appreciable difference between the two.

On a technical point is someone who gets a faster time because they have moved to better wheels/tyres/frame actually getting faster or do they have to stay on the same kit to see if it is they who have actually got faster and not the equipment?

Running as fast as you can to stay where you are.

 

[Webbo2]

I'm at the age that challenging myself means limiting the rate at which I lose my speed and getting up hills without pushing. The law of diminishing returns has definitely set in.

I have two bikes, a Genesis road bike on 28mm and a Genesis gravel bike on 32mm. Impossible to compare the times over my 20/25 miles because of changing road/weather conditions but I can see no appreciable difference between the two.

On a technical point is someone who gets a faster time because they have moved to better wheels/tyres/frame actually getting faster or do they have to stay on the same kit to see if it is they who have actually got faster and not the equipment?

However despite being in my early 70’s I do still train not just ride. I try and do a couple of interval sessions a week to try and stop the slide in to questioning why my average speed gets lower and lower.🤣🤣🤣